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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] compat: Use explicit type names on HW_COMPAT_2_6
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2019 16:13:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190104161217-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190104210656.GJ4157@habkost.net>

On Fri, Jan 04, 2019 at 07:06:56PM -0200, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 04, 2019 at 03:48:02PM -0500, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 04, 2019 at 06:09:52PM -0200, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jan 04, 2019 at 03:54:39PM -0200, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Jan 04, 2019 at 10:12:00AM +0000, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > > > > * Michael S. Tsirkin (mst@redhat.com) wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, Jan 04, 2019 at 01:22:26AM -0200, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> > > > > > > The virtio-pci entries in HW_COMPAT_2_6 had an implicit
> > > > > > > assumption: that all virtio-pci subclasses support the
> > > > > > > disable-legacy and disable-modern options.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > That assumption was broken by commit f6e501a28ef9 ("virtio:
> > > > > > > Provide version-specific variants of virtio PCI devices").  This
> > > > > > > caused QEMU to crash if using the new -non-transitional or
> > > > > > > -transitional device types:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   $ qemu-system-x86_64 -machine pc-i440fx-2.6 \
> > > > > > >     -device virtio-net-pci-non-transitional
> > > > > > >   Unexpected error in object_property_find() at qom/object.c:1092:
> > > > > > >   qemu-system-x86_64: -device virtio-net-pci-non-transitional: can't apply \
> > > > > > >   global virtio-pci.disable-modern=on: Property '.disable-modern' not found
> > > > > > >   Aborted (core dumped)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Replace the virtio-pci.disable-legacy=off and
> > > > > > > virtio-pci.disable-modern=on entries on HW_COMPAT_2_6 with
> > > > > > > explicit entries for each generic virtio device type.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The full list of generic virtio device types was extracted by
> > > > > > > just grepping for ".generic_name".  Note that we don't need to
> > > > > > > worry about listing new virtio-pci devices in HW_COMPAT_2_6 in
> > > > > > > the future, because new devices won't require QEMU 2.6
> > > > > > > compatibility.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I fully expect that e.g. packed ring support will need
> > > > > > to affect all virtio devices too. And it's likely
> > > > > > that we'll have some new virtio-pci transport features too.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > This makes the compat entries annoyingly verbose, but is simpler
> > > > > > > than the alternative of making the virtio-pci type inheritance
> > > > > > > rules even more complex.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > God forbid we forgot something, the only way to notice is to
> > > > > > run a cross version migration with an old qemu.
> > > > > > I think we need to come up with something less verbose and fragile.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I guess we could use a script like tests/acceptance/virtio_version.py to
> > > > > do a check?
> > > > 
> > > > That's a good idea.  On test code we can try additional tricks to
> > > > detect the hybrid virtio devices without increasing the
> > > > complexity of QEMU code.  I'll give it a try.
> > > 
> > > I did it but I'm not happy with the result: many of the virtio
> > > devices can't be tested without extra arguments.  Some of them
> > > (like vhost-*) require extra privileges on the host that might be
> > > unavailable.
> > > 
> > > Anyway, while writing this I noticed another issue: many of the
> > > virtio devices in QEMU 2.6 were already modern-only!
> > > 
> > > Setting disable-modern=off on modern-only devices like virtio-vga
> > > or virtio-tablet-pci doesn't make sense.  This means setting
> > > virtio-pci.disable-modern=off on HW_COMPAT_2_6 was incorrect even
> > > before the -non-transitional and -transitional device types were
> > > introduced.
> > 
> > 
> > It did create an opportunity to create non working devices.
> > 
> > Whether that's incorrect as such I'm not sure.
> 
> This is not just creating the opportunity for an user to
> disable-modern=on.  HW_COMPAT_2_6 is actually setting
> disable-modern=on on virtio-vga and other modern-only devices.
> Sounds like a mistake to me.
> 
> Luckily those modern-only devices silently ignore the
> disable-modern/disable-legacy properties, but this might change
> in the future.

Worry about it then?

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-04 21:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-04  3:22 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] compat: Use explicit type names on HW_COMPAT_2_6 Eduardo Habkost
2019-01-04  4:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-01-04  9:37   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-04 10:12   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-01-04 17:54     ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-01-04 20:09       ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-01-04 20:48         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-01-04 21:06           ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-01-04 21:13             ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2019-01-04 22:00               ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-01-07  8:12                 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-07 19:26                   ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-01-04 16:08   ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-01-04  9:49 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-04 16:11   ` Eduardo Habkost

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