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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Mark Mielke <mark.mielke@gmail.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, christian.ehrhardt@canonical.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Live migration from Qemu 2.12 hosts to Qemu 3.2 hosts, with VMX flag enabled in the guest?
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 10:21:02 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190118102102.GH20660@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190118101633.GC2146@work-vm>

On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 10:16:34AM +0000, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> * Paolo Bonzini (pbonzini@redhat.com) wrote:
> > On 18/01/19 11:02, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > >>
> > >> It fails if the flag is set, rather than if any nested virtualization has
> > >> been used before.
> > >>
> > >> I'm concerned I will end up with a requirement for *all* guests to be
> > >> restarted in order to migrate them to the new hosts, rather than just the
> > >> ones that would have a problem.
> > > I think you should be able to migrate from 2.12->3.1 like this, but
> > > you'd hit the problem when you then try and migrate again between your
> > > new QEMUs.
> > > 
> > > I guess we could modify it to wire it to machine type, so that
> > > older machine types didn't block.
> > 
> > That would also be wrong.  The old machine types _could_ be using KVM
> > and they have no way to block the live migration.
> > 
> > The solution is to restart the VM using "-cpu host,-vmx".
> 
> The problem as Christian explained in that thread is that it was common
> for them to start VMs with vmx enabled but for people not to use it
> on most of the VMs, so we break migration for most VMs even though most
> don't use it.
> 
> It might not be robust, but it worked for a lot of people most of the
> time.

Yes, this is exactly why I said we should make the migration blocker
be conditional on any L2 guest having been started. I vaguely recall
someone saying there wasn't any way to detect this situation from
QEMU though ?

Regards,
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-18 10:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-18  5:32 [Qemu-devel] Live migration from Qemu 2.12 hosts to Qemu 3.2 hosts, with VMX flag enabled in the guest? Mark Mielke
2019-01-18  6:18 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2019-01-22  7:20   ` Like Xu
2019-01-18 10:02 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-01-18 10:11   ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-01-18 10:16     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-01-18 10:21       ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2019-01-18 12:57         ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-01-18 13:41           ` Mark Mielke
2019-01-18 15:25             ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-01-18 19:31               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-01-22 22:58               ` Mark Mielke
2019-01-18 13:44           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-01-18 14:09             ` Mark Mielke
2019-01-18 14:48               ` Daniel P. Berrangé

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