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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: Yan Vugenfirer <yan@daynix.com>,
	Yuri Benditovich <yuri.benditovich@daynix.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] virtio-net: do not start queues that are not enabled by the guest
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 07:33:52 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190225073056-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <94c6cead-7ed1-2269-2c2b-8534849d9e41@redhat.com>

On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 03:47:48PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> 
> On 2019/2/22 下午12:22, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 10:10:08PM -0500, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 11:04:05AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > > On 2019/2/22 上午9:35, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 05:40:22PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > > > > On 2019/2/21 下午4:18, Yuri Benditovich wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >           For 1.0 device, we can fix the queue_enable, but for 0.9x device how do
> > > > > >           you enable one specific queue in this case? (setting status?)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >       Do I understand correctly that for 0.9 device in some cases the device will
> > > > > >       receive feature _MQ set, but will not receive VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_MQ_VQ_PAIRS_SET?
> > > > > >       Or the problem is different?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Let me clarify, VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_MQ_VQ_PAIRS_SET is used to control the the
> > > > > > number of queue pairs used by device for doing transmission and reception. It
> > > > > > was not used to enable or disable a virtqueue.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > For 1.0 device, we should use queue_enable in pci cfg to enable and disable
> > > > > > queue:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > We could do:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 1) allocate memory and set queue_enable for vq0
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 2) allocate memory and set queue_enable for vq1
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 3) Set vq paris to 1
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 4) allocate memory and set queue_enable for vq2
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 5) allocate memory and set queue_enable for vq3
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 6) set vq pairs to 2
> > > > > I do not think spec allows this.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > The driver MUST follow this sequence to initialize a device:
> > > > > 1. Reset the device.
> > > > > 2. Set the ACKNOWLEDGE status bit: the guest OS has noticed the device.
> > > > > 3. Set the DRIVER status bit: the guest OS knows how to drive the device.
> > > > > 4. Read device feature bits, and write the subset of feature bits understood by the OS and driver to the
> > > > > device. During this step the driver MAY read (but MUST NOT write) the device-specific configuration
> > > > > fields to check that it can support the device before accepting it.
> > > > > 5. Set the FEATURES_OK status bit. The driver MUST NOT accept new feature bits after this step.
> > > > > 6. Re-read device status to ensure the FEATURES_OK bit is still set: otherwise, the device does not
> > > > > support our subset of features and the device is unusable.
> > > > > 7. Perform device-specific setup, including discovery of virtqueues for the device, optional per-bus setup,
> > > > > reading and possibly writing the device’s virtio configuration space, and population of virtqueues.
> > > > > 8. Set the DRIVER_OK status bit. At this point the device is “live”.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thus vqs are setup at step 7.
> > > > > 
> > > > > # of vq pairs are set up through a command which is a special
> > > > > buffer, and spec says:
> > > > > 
> > > > > The driver MUST NOT send any buffer available notifications to the device before setting DRIVER_OK.
> > > > 
> > > > So you meant write to queue_enable is forbidden after DRIVER_OK (though it's
> > > > not very clear to me from the  spec). And if a driver want to enable new
> > > > queues, it must reset the device?
> > > 
> > > That's my reading.  What do you think?
> 
> 
> Looks like I can infer this from the spec, maybe it's better to clarify.
> 
> 
> > Btw some legacy drivers might violate this by addig buffers
> > before driver_ok.
> 
> 
> Yes, but it's probably too late to fix them.
> 
> Thanks.

Right. As a work around virtio net also checks rings
when it detects driver ok. We can disable that when VIRTIO_1
has been negotiated.

> 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > But this requires a proper implementation for queue_enable for vhost which is
> > > > > > missed in qemu and probably what you really want to do.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > but for 0.9x device, there's no such way to do this. That's the issue.
> > > > > 0.9x there's no queue enable, assumption is PA!=0 means VQ has
> > > > > been enabled.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > So
> > > > > > driver must allocate all queBes before starting the device, otherwise there's
> > > > > > no way to enable it afterwards.
> > > > > As per spec queues must be allocated before DRIVER_OK.
> > > > > 
> > > > > That is universal.
> > > > 
> > > > If I understand correctly, this is not what is done by current windows
> > > > drivers.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > > There're tricks to make it work like what is
> > > > > > done in your patch, but it depends on a specific implementation like qemu which
> > > > > > is sub-optimal.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >           A fundamental question is what prevents you from just initialization all
> > > > > >           queues during driver start? It looks to me this save lots of efforts
> > > > > >           than allocating queue dynamically.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >       This is not so trivial in Windows driver, as it does not have objects for queues
> > > > > >       that it does not use. Linux driver first of all allocates all the
> > > > > >       queues and then
> > > > > >       adds Rx/Tx to those it will use. Windows driver first decides how many queues
> > > > > >       it will use then allocates objects for them and initializes them from zero to
> > > > > >       fully functional state.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Well, you just need to allocate some memory for the virtqueue, there's no need
> > > > > > to make it visible to the rest until it was enabled.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 

  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-25 12:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-13 14:51 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] virtio-net: do not start queues that are not enabled by the guest Yuri Benditovich
2019-02-18  3:49 ` Jason Wang
2019-02-18  9:58   ` Yuri Benditovich
2019-02-18 16:39     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-18 20:49       ` Yuri Benditovich
2019-02-18 23:34         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-19  6:27           ` Jason Wang
2019-02-19 14:19             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-20 10:13               ` Jason Wang
2019-02-21  6:00             ` Yuri Benditovich
2019-02-21  6:49               ` Jason Wang
2019-02-21  8:18                 ` Yuri Benditovich
2019-02-21  9:40                   ` Jason Wang
2019-02-22  1:35                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-22  3:04                       ` Jason Wang
2019-02-22  3:10                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-22  4:22                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-25  7:47                             ` Jason Wang
2019-02-25 12:33                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2019-02-28 14:08                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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