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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: elena.ufimtseva@oracle.com
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, john.g.johnson@oracle.com,
	sstabellini@kernel.org, jag.raman@oracle.com,
	konrad.wilk@oracle.com, dgilbert@redhat.com, armbru@redhat.com,
	ross.lagerwall@citrix.com, liran.alon@oracle.com,
	stefanha@redhat.com, kanth.ghatraju@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [multiprocess RFC PATCH 35/37] multi-process: QMP/HMP commands to resize block device on remote process
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2019 15:11:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190307141125.GD5786@linux.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190307072251.9823-1-elena.ufimtseva@oracle.com>

Am 07.03.2019 um 08:22 hat elena.ufimtseva@oracle.com geschrieben:
> From: Jagannathan Raman <jag.raman@oracle.com>
> 
> Adds rblock_resize QMP/HMP commands to resize block devices on the remote
> process.
> 
> Signed-off-by: John G Johnson <john.g.johnson@oracle.com>
> Signed-off-by: Jagannathan Raman <jag.raman@oracle.com>
> Signed-off-by: Elena Ufimtseva <elena.ufimtseva@oracle.com>

Up to this patch, I thought that maybe the block layer related things
would only need a few changes, like:

* Have -rblockdev instead of -rdrive
* Add QMP version for HMP-only only commands

But this one got me thinking. If I understand this correctly, the
current design means that we have to duplicate every single QMP command
to have a remote variant. This just doesn't scale.

I'm not entirely sure what the final design should look like, but I
think we need to have a separate QMP connection to the process that owns
the block device so that the normal existing QMP commands can be used to
managed it.

In the long run, I think you'll want to separate the block backends from
the device emulation anyway. The thing I have in mind is the storage
daemon idea that was occasionally mentioned here and there; and the
process that owns the device would connect to the backend process, maybe
using the vhost-user protocol (or an extension of it with more
management stuff). For the start, that separate process could in fact be
the main process.

For a limited prototype, maybe we could even use NBD, which is already
existing (both server and client parts), but will obviously impact
performance. Then we'd need a way to configure the remote device process
to connect to either an external NBD server (e.g. qemu-nbd) or to the
main process, which would manage the real storage and export it to the
remote processes over NBD.

In a second step, we could switch it over to a different protocol that
is more feature complete and can provide better performance.

This probably needs some more thought, but what do you think in general?

Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-07 14:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-07  7:20 [Qemu-devel] [multiprocess RFC PATCH 00/37] Initial support of multi-process qemu elena.ufimtseva
2019-03-07  7:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [multiprocess RFC PATCH 35/37] multi-process: QMP/HMP commands to resize block device on remote process elena.ufimtseva
2019-03-07 14:11   ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2019-03-07 15:26     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-03-07 16:15   ` Eric Blake
2019-03-07 10:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [multiprocess RFC PATCH 00/37] Initial support of multi-process qemu Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-03-07 13:27   ` Marc-André Lureau
2019-03-08 19:49     ` Elena Ufimtseva

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