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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Catherine Ho <catherine.hecx@gmail.com>
Cc: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>, Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] hostmem-file: warn when memory-backend-file, share=on and in incoming migration
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 15:59:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190410145908.GF2980@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEn6zmGHg_Tb1jsvurfrovQNB0R5WZT3mLT7r8R+BEt_4bPbhA@mail.gmail.com>

* Catherine Ho (catherine.hecx@gmail.com) wrote:
> Hi Igor
> 
> 
> On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 18:35, Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun,  7 Apr 2019 22:19:05 -0400
> > Catherine Ho <catherine.hecx@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Currently it is not forbidden to use "-object
> > memory-backend-file,share=on"
> > > and together with "-incoming". But after incoming migration is finished,
> > > the memory-backend-file will be definitely written if share=on. So the
> > > memory-backend-file can only be used once, but failed in the 2nd time
> > > incoming.
> > >
> > > Thus it gives a warning and the users can run the qemu if they really
> > > want to do it.
> >
> > Shouldn't we add a migration blocker in such a case instead of warning
> > and letting qemu run wild?
> >
> 
> IMO, it doesn't need to block this. With share=on and -incoming, the user
> can
> still save the device memory state into memory-backend file again if
> ignore-shared
> capability is on.
> 
> If we block this, the user can't use the ignore-shared capability in
> incoming
> migration.

-incomign with share=on is a perfectly normal thing to do - it just
depends who you are sharing the file with and the lifetime of that
shared file.

For example; if you're just running a qemu with vhost-user then you
use share=on - however wyou typically select the backend file as
a new file from /dev/shm - it's not a file that you previously migrated
to.

QEMU has no way to know about the provenance of the shared file it's
been given, so we can't really warn people about it.

Dave

> B.R.
> Catherine
> 
> >
> >
> > > Signed-off-by: Catherine Ho <catherine.hecx@gmail.com>
> > > ---
> > >  backends/hostmem-file.c | 11 +++++++++++
> > >  1 file changed, 11 insertions(+)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/backends/hostmem-file.c b/backends/hostmem-file.c
> > > index 37ac6445d2..59429ee0b4 100644
> > > --- a/backends/hostmem-file.c
> > > +++ b/backends/hostmem-file.c
> > > @@ -16,6 +16,7 @@
> > >  #include "sysemu/hostmem.h"
> > >  #include "sysemu/sysemu.h"
> > >  #include "qom/object_interfaces.h"
> > > +#include "migration/migration.h"
> > >
> > >  /* hostmem-file.c */
> > >  /**
> > > @@ -79,6 +80,16 @@ file_backend_memory_alloc(HostMemoryBackend *backend,
> > Error **errp)
> > >          }
> > >      }
> > >
> > > +    /*
> > > +     * In ignore shared case, if share=on for host memory backend file,
> > > +     * the ram might be written after incoming process is finished. Thus
> > > +     * the memory backend can't be reused for 2nd/3rd... incoming
> > > +     */
> > > +    if (backend->share && migrate_ignore_shared()
> > > +                       && runstate_check(RUN_STATE_INMIGRATE))
> > > +        warn_report("share=on for memory backend file might be "
> > > +                        "conflicted with incoming in ignore shared
> > case");
> > > +
> > >      backend->force_prealloc = mem_prealloc;
> > >      name = host_memory_backend_get_name(backend);
> > >      memory_region_init_ram_from_file(&backend->mr, OBJECT(backend),
> >
> >
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK

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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Catherine Ho <catherine.hecx@gmail.com>
Cc: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] hostmem-file: warn when memory-backend-file, share=on and in incoming migration
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 15:59:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190410145908.GF2980@work-vm> (raw)
Message-ID: <20190410145909.wj0Lkf4uG1nothXNMKUH5DsQu9GYn_drPoG7OUXatbQ@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEn6zmGHg_Tb1jsvurfrovQNB0R5WZT3mLT7r8R+BEt_4bPbhA@mail.gmail.com>

* Catherine Ho (catherine.hecx@gmail.com) wrote:
> Hi Igor
> 
> 
> On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 18:35, Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun,  7 Apr 2019 22:19:05 -0400
> > Catherine Ho <catherine.hecx@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Currently it is not forbidden to use "-object
> > memory-backend-file,share=on"
> > > and together with "-incoming". But after incoming migration is finished,
> > > the memory-backend-file will be definitely written if share=on. So the
> > > memory-backend-file can only be used once, but failed in the 2nd time
> > > incoming.
> > >
> > > Thus it gives a warning and the users can run the qemu if they really
> > > want to do it.
> >
> > Shouldn't we add a migration blocker in such a case instead of warning
> > and letting qemu run wild?
> >
> 
> IMO, it doesn't need to block this. With share=on and -incoming, the user
> can
> still save the device memory state into memory-backend file again if
> ignore-shared
> capability is on.
> 
> If we block this, the user can't use the ignore-shared capability in
> incoming
> migration.

-incomign with share=on is a perfectly normal thing to do - it just
depends who you are sharing the file with and the lifetime of that
shared file.

For example; if you're just running a qemu with vhost-user then you
use share=on - however wyou typically select the backend file as
a new file from /dev/shm - it's not a file that you previously migrated
to.

QEMU has no way to know about the provenance of the shared file it's
been given, so we can't really warn people about it.

Dave

> B.R.
> Catherine
> 
> >
> >
> > > Signed-off-by: Catherine Ho <catherine.hecx@gmail.com>
> > > ---
> > >  backends/hostmem-file.c | 11 +++++++++++
> > >  1 file changed, 11 insertions(+)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/backends/hostmem-file.c b/backends/hostmem-file.c
> > > index 37ac6445d2..59429ee0b4 100644
> > > --- a/backends/hostmem-file.c
> > > +++ b/backends/hostmem-file.c
> > > @@ -16,6 +16,7 @@
> > >  #include "sysemu/hostmem.h"
> > >  #include "sysemu/sysemu.h"
> > >  #include "qom/object_interfaces.h"
> > > +#include "migration/migration.h"
> > >
> > >  /* hostmem-file.c */
> > >  /**
> > > @@ -79,6 +80,16 @@ file_backend_memory_alloc(HostMemoryBackend *backend,
> > Error **errp)
> > >          }
> > >      }
> > >
> > > +    /*
> > > +     * In ignore shared case, if share=on for host memory backend file,
> > > +     * the ram might be written after incoming process is finished. Thus
> > > +     * the memory backend can't be reused for 2nd/3rd... incoming
> > > +     */
> > > +    if (backend->share && migrate_ignore_shared()
> > > +                       && runstate_check(RUN_STATE_INMIGRATE))
> > > +        warn_report("share=on for memory backend file might be "
> > > +                        "conflicted with incoming in ignore shared
> > case");
> > > +
> > >      backend->force_prealloc = mem_prealloc;
> > >      name = host_memory_backend_get_name(backend);
> > >      memory_region_init_ram_from_file(&backend->mr, OBJECT(backend),
> >
> >
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK


  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-04-10 14:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-08  2:19 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] hostmem-file: warn when memory-backend-file, share=on and in incoming migration Catherine Ho
2019-04-08  2:19 ` Catherine Ho
2019-04-08  3:25 ` Peter Xu
2019-04-08  3:25   ` Peter Xu
2019-04-08  6:15   ` Catherine Ho
2019-04-08  6:15     ` Catherine Ho
2019-04-08  7:04     ` Peter Xu
2019-04-08  7:04       ` Peter Xu
2019-04-08  8:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] " Catherine Ho
2019-04-08  8:43   ` Catherine Ho
2019-04-08 10:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] " Igor Mammedov
2019-04-08 10:35   ` Igor Mammedov
2019-04-09  2:21   ` Catherine Ho
2019-04-09  2:21     ` Catherine Ho
2019-04-10 14:59     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2019-04-10 14:59       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-04-10 15:36       ` Catherine Ho
2019-04-10 15:36         ` Catherine Ho
2019-04-10 16:57         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-04-10 16:57           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-04-11  1:25           ` Catherine Ho
2019-04-11  1:25             ` Catherine Ho

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