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From: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
To: Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>
Cc: "peter.maydell@linaro.org" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"armbru@redhat.com" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"dgilbert@redhat.com" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	"imammedo@redhat.com" <imammedo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] How do we do user input bitmap properties?
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 15:46:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190418144611.GJ3567@e103592.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190418144306.5sxrbcjbkw2tzslj@kamzik.brq.redhat.com>

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 03:43:06PM +0100, Andrew Jones wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 03:03:02PM +0100, Dave Martin wrote:

[...]

> > It's worth nothing that there are two problems to be solved here: one is
> > to specify an exact set unambiguously, which is important for migration
> > scenarios.
> > 
> > The other is to be able to clamp the vector length for user convenience,
> > but without particularly considering migration.  There's no direct way
> > for the user to know the set of vector lengths supported by KVM today,
> > so cooking up the right magic to go on the command line is non-trivial:
> > you have to create a dummy vcpu and read KVM_REG_ARM64_SVE_VLS to find
> > the host's supported set.  Or you just have to know.
> 
> Right, we'll have to query first to know what's available. libvirt will
> do that and tools built on libvirt should help provide the user with
> sane defaults or a relatively painless selection process. The QEMU command
> line is primarily for developers, so they'll likely just know what they
> want.
> 
> > 
> > A separate max-vl option (or whatever) might be a useful alternative.
> 
> Yeah, we could offer this to be nicer to QEMU command line users that
> don't intend to migrate, or don't care if a migration can fail. This
> would be analogous to '-cpu max' which enables all available cpu
> features. Bad for migration, but a nice shorthand if you want your
> guest to have everything.

Sounds reasonable.

Cheers
---Dave

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From: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
To: Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>
Cc: "peter.maydell@linaro.org" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"imammedo@redhat.com" <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	"armbru@redhat.com" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"dgilbert@redhat.com" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] How do we do user input bitmap properties?
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 15:46:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190418144611.GJ3567@e103592.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20190418144611.kuuFepo521s4PrzZnPb90WGk_6v2TEsNUoSzOUJlVmg@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190418144306.5sxrbcjbkw2tzslj@kamzik.brq.redhat.com>

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 03:43:06PM +0100, Andrew Jones wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 03:03:02PM +0100, Dave Martin wrote:

[...]

> > It's worth nothing that there are two problems to be solved here: one is
> > to specify an exact set unambiguously, which is important for migration
> > scenarios.
> > 
> > The other is to be able to clamp the vector length for user convenience,
> > but without particularly considering migration.  There's no direct way
> > for the user to know the set of vector lengths supported by KVM today,
> > so cooking up the right magic to go on the command line is non-trivial:
> > you have to create a dummy vcpu and read KVM_REG_ARM64_SVE_VLS to find
> > the host's supported set.  Or you just have to know.
> 
> Right, we'll have to query first to know what's available. libvirt will
> do that and tools built on libvirt should help provide the user with
> sane defaults or a relatively painless selection process. The QEMU command
> line is primarily for developers, so they'll likely just know what they
> want.
> 
> > 
> > A separate max-vl option (or whatever) might be a useful alternative.
> 
> Yeah, we could offer this to be nicer to QEMU command line users that
> don't intend to migrate, or don't care if a migration can fail. This
> would be analogous to '-cpu max' which enables all available cpu
> features. Bad for migration, but a nice shorthand if you want your
> guest to have everything.

Sounds reasonable.

Cheers
---Dave


  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-04-18 14:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-18  9:28 [Qemu-devel] How do we do user input bitmap properties? Andrew Jones
2019-04-18  9:28 ` Andrew Jones
2019-04-18  9:46 ` Andrew Jones
2019-04-18  9:46   ` Andrew Jones
2019-04-18 10:52   ` Dave Martin
2019-04-18 10:52     ` Dave Martin
2019-04-18 11:28     ` Andrew Jones
2019-04-18 11:28       ` Andrew Jones
2019-04-18 14:03       ` Dave Martin
2019-04-18 14:03         ` Dave Martin
2019-04-18 14:43         ` Andrew Jones
2019-04-18 14:43           ` Andrew Jones
2019-04-18 14:46           ` Dave Martin [this message]
2019-04-18 14:46             ` Dave Martin
2019-04-18 14:57           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-04-18 14:57             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-04-18 11:26 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-18 11:26   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-18 15:09   ` Andrew Jones
2019-04-18 15:09     ` Andrew Jones
2019-04-18 17:48   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-04-18 17:48     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-05-13 18:42     ` Andrew Jones
2019-05-14  4:54       ` Markus Armbruster
2019-05-14  9:02         ` Andrew Jones
2019-05-14 13:32           ` Markus Armbruster
2019-05-15  8:15             ` Andrew Jones
2019-05-15 10:53               ` Dave Martin
2019-05-15 10:59                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-05-14 14:48           ` Igor Mammedov
2019-05-15  8:18             ` Andrew Jones
2019-05-15 10:52               ` Igor Mammedov
2019-05-15 11:54                 ` Andrew Jones
2019-05-23  8:35                   ` Andrea Bolognani
2019-05-24 18:24                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-27 16:29                       ` Andrea Bolognani
2019-05-27 18:59                         ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-15 11:00               ` Dave Martin
2019-05-15 11:09                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-05-15 12:51                   ` Dave Martin
2019-05-15 11:42                 ` Andrew Jones
2019-05-15 12:50                   ` Dave Martin
2019-05-14 15:28         ` Dave Martin
2019-04-19  0:07 ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-04-19  0:07   ` Laszlo Ersek

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