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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: Wainer dos Santos Moschetta <wainersm@redhat.com>,
	mprivozn@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] qapi: SupportStatusInfo struct
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 11:03:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190430100345.GJ3716@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190425174208.GO18406@habkost.net>

On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 02:42:08PM -0300, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 11:20:58AM -0300, Wainer dos Santos Moschetta wrote:
> > Hi Eduardo,
> > 
> > 
> > On 04/23/2019 06:22 PM, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> > > This struct will be used to represent support and deprecation
> > > status of QEMU features.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
> > > ---
> > >   qapi/common.json | 24 ++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >   1 file changed, 24 insertions(+)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/qapi/common.json b/qapi/common.json
> > > index 99d313ef3b..b59d0dc66b 100644
> > > --- a/qapi/common.json
> > > +++ b/qapi/common.json
> > > @@ -193,3 +193,27 @@
> > >                'ppc64', 'riscv32', 'riscv64', 's390x', 'sh4',
> > >                'sh4eb', 'sparc', 'sparc64', 'tricore', 'unicore32',
> > >                'x86_64', 'xtensa', 'xtensaeb' ] }
> > > +
> > > +##
> > > +# @SupportStatusInfo:
> > > +#
> > > +# Information on support status of a given feature
> > > +# (e.g. machine type)
> > > +#
> > > +# @deprecated: if true, the given feature is deprecated and may be removed
> > > +#              in future versions of QEMU according to the QEMU deprecation
> > > +#              policy.
> > 
> > Eventually management software will need the know the QEMU version the
> > feature is planed for removal. So makes sense to include a field to capture
> > that information as well or do you expect it to be added (as a good
> > practice) in the 'status-message'?
> 
> If we really want to provide extra information like version
> numbers, adding a separate field sounds better than using
> status-message.
> 
> But I'm not sure we really want to include this amount of detail
> in the API.  Mentioning explicit version numbers could make
> things more complex for downstream distributions of QEMU that
> include backports and/or have a different deprecation policy.
> 
> I'd like to hear opinions from others.

Yeah, I'm *not* in favour of mentioning any version number in this. Our
"2 cycle" deprecation rule is more of a guideline than a strict rule.
It can be extended if we find some blocking problem that makes removal
more painful than expected.

Regards,
Daniel
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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: mprivozn@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Wainer dos Santos Moschetta <wainersm@redhat.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] qapi: SupportStatusInfo struct
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 11:03:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190430100345.GJ3716@redhat.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20190430100345.ycpcyL97snOCc8GrWyYXOlaxi9H12vTANnYJCKQYShw@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190425174208.GO18406@habkost.net>

On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 02:42:08PM -0300, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 11:20:58AM -0300, Wainer dos Santos Moschetta wrote:
> > Hi Eduardo,
> > 
> > 
> > On 04/23/2019 06:22 PM, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> > > This struct will be used to represent support and deprecation
> > > status of QEMU features.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
> > > ---
> > >   qapi/common.json | 24 ++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >   1 file changed, 24 insertions(+)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/qapi/common.json b/qapi/common.json
> > > index 99d313ef3b..b59d0dc66b 100644
> > > --- a/qapi/common.json
> > > +++ b/qapi/common.json
> > > @@ -193,3 +193,27 @@
> > >                'ppc64', 'riscv32', 'riscv64', 's390x', 'sh4',
> > >                'sh4eb', 'sparc', 'sparc64', 'tricore', 'unicore32',
> > >                'x86_64', 'xtensa', 'xtensaeb' ] }
> > > +
> > > +##
> > > +# @SupportStatusInfo:
> > > +#
> > > +# Information on support status of a given feature
> > > +# (e.g. machine type)
> > > +#
> > > +# @deprecated: if true, the given feature is deprecated and may be removed
> > > +#              in future versions of QEMU according to the QEMU deprecation
> > > +#              policy.
> > 
> > Eventually management software will need the know the QEMU version the
> > feature is planed for removal. So makes sense to include a field to capture
> > that information as well or do you expect it to be added (as a good
> > practice) in the 'status-message'?
> 
> If we really want to provide extra information like version
> numbers, adding a separate field sounds better than using
> status-message.
> 
> But I'm not sure we really want to include this amount of detail
> in the API.  Mentioning explicit version numbers could make
> things more complex for downstream distributions of QEMU that
> include backports and/or have a different deprecation policy.
> 
> I'd like to hear opinions from others.

Yeah, I'm *not* in favour of mentioning any version number in this. Our
"2 cycle" deprecation rule is more of a guideline than a strict rule.
It can be extended if we find some blocking problem that makes removal
more painful than expected.

Regards,
Daniel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-04-30 10:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-23 21:22 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] Export machine type deprecation info through QMP Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-23 21:22 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-23 21:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] qapi: SupportStatusInfo struct Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-23 21:22   ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-23 22:23   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-04-23 22:23     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-04-24 18:24     ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-24 18:24       ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-24  8:26   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-24  8:26     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-24 18:20     ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-24 18:20       ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-30 10:10       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-30 10:10         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-30 12:42         ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-30 12:42           ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-30 12:47           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-30 12:47             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-25 14:20   ` Wainer dos Santos Moschetta
2019-04-25 14:20     ` Wainer dos Santos Moschetta
2019-04-25 17:42     ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-25 17:42       ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-30 10:03       ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2019-04-30 10:03         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-23 21:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] machine: Use SupportStatusInfo for deprecation info Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-23 21:22   ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-23 22:26   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-04-23 22:26     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-04-24  1:37   ` David Gibson
2019-04-24  1:37     ` David Gibson
2019-04-24  8:23   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-24  8:23     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-24 18:29     ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-24 18:29       ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-23 21:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] qmp: Add deprecation information to query-machines Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-23 21:22   ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-24  8:28   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-24  8:28     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-25 14:54   ` Wainer dos Santos Moschetta
2019-04-25 14:54     ` Wainer dos Santos Moschetta
2019-04-25 17:43     ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-25 17:43       ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-23 21:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] Export machine type deprecation info through QMP no-reply
2019-04-23 21:28   ` no-reply
2019-04-24  7:56 ` Thomas Huth
2019-04-24  7:56   ` Thomas Huth
2019-04-24  8:31   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-24  8:31     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-24 18:14     ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-24 18:14       ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-24 18:10   ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-24 18:10     ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-25  7:38     ` Thomas Huth
2019-04-25  7:38       ` Thomas Huth
2019-04-30 10:11     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-30 10:11       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-24  8:23 ` Michal Privoznik
2019-04-24  8:23   ` Michal Privoznik
2019-05-07  5:07 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-05-07 16:18   ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-08  9:16     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-05-08 20:28       ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-09  8:31         ` Markus Armbruster
2019-05-09  9:14           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-05-09 15:52             ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-09 16:08               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-05-09 17:44                 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-10  6:28                   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-05-10 17:03                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-10  6:19               ` Markus Armbruster
2019-05-10 17:00                 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-09 18:19           ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-10  9:29             ` Markus Armbruster
2019-05-10 17:17               ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-10 17:26                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-05-13 11:49                 ` Markus Armbruster

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