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From: Cleber Rosa <crosa@redhat.com>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	"Eduardo Habkost" <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PULL 10/19] tests/boot_linux_console: increase timeout
Date: Thu, 9 May 2019 14:12:42 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190509181242.GB25147@dhcp-17-231.bos.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190509044040.bgrzbzczqonbn24q@sirius.home.kraxel.org>

On Thu, May 09, 2019 at 06:40:40AM +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>   Hi,
> 
> > > Tests can also timeout due to slow downloads of test kernels.
> > > Any chance to run the downloads without timeout?
> > 
> > I acknowledge this is an issue, and have thought about two possible
> > ways to solve it:
> > 
> >  1) Downloading/caching/checking all the test assets in a job "pre-tests"
> >     plugin.
> 
> >  2) Report the test phase (say, setUp()) to the test runner, which
> >     would allow the runner to:
> 
> > I'm very much interested in your opinion so we can evolve the idea into
> > implementation.
> 
> (1) is the better approach I think.  That way you can give better
> feedback to the user, along the lines of "download 2 of 5 in progress".
> Also it allows for better management of the assets, you can have tools
> to list them / fetch them / copy them from one to another test machine
> / find & cleanup obsolete assets (i.e. Fedora 28 kernel after switching
> tests to Fedora 29).
> 
> (2) is probably still useful, to report phases of longer running
> tests and maybe have separate timeouts for each phase.  But for
> assets I think approach (1) is better than a "download asset"
> phase.
>

I also think that approach #1 is simpler and saner, but thinking about
where we're going with the test runner development, I started to have
doubts about it.  The reason is that we're adding parallel and multi
environment (process, machine, container) execution capabilities to the
runner. Dogfood version is here:

  https://github.com/avocado-framework/avocado/pull/3111

By doing all download/caching before any single test starts, we may be
wasting a lot of CPU time that could be used for running tests, making
the overall job execution much longer.

And with regards to test phases, the runner could distinguish between
setup and test phases, possibly re-running the setup phase a number of
times until sucessfull completion, improving even further the
reliability of the *test* results (excluding the setup phase).

Anyway, this is only brainstorm at this point, so I'll let you know
when this moves forward.

> cheers,
>   Gerd
> 
> 

FIY: one of the new runner planned features, is based on a question
use case you mention, about how to run tests built into a minimal
image, such as an initrd.

Regards,
- Cleber.


  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-09 18:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-03  0:41 [Qemu-devel] [PULL 00/19] Python queue, 2019-05-02 Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 01/19] tests/acceptance: show avocado test execution by default Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41   ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 02/19] tests/acceptance: improve docstring on pick_default_qemu_bin() Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41   ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 03/19] tests/acceptance: fix doc reference to avocado_qemu directory Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41   ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 04/19] tests/acceptance: introduce arch parameter and attribute Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41   ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 05/19] tests/acceptance: use "arch:" tag to filter target specific tests Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41   ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 06/19] tests/acceptance: look for target architecture in test tags first Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41   ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 07/19] tests/boot_linux_console: rename the x86_64 after the arch and machine Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41   ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 08/19] tests/boot_linux_console: update the x86_64 kernel Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41   ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 09/19] tests/boot_linux_console: add common kernel command line options Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41   ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 10/19] tests/boot_linux_console: increase timeout Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41   ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-08 10:28   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-05-08 14:39     ` Cleber Rosa
2019-05-09  4:40       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-05-09 18:12         ` Cleber Rosa [this message]
2019-05-10  6:06           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-05-03  0:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 11/19] tests/boot_linux_console: refactor the console watcher into utility method Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41   ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 12/19] scripts/qemu.py: support adding a console with the default serial device Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41   ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 13/19] tests/boot_linux_console: add a test for mips + malta Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41   ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 14/19] tests/boot_linux_console: add a test for mips64el " Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41   ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 15/19] tests/boot_linux_console: add a test for aarch64 + virt Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41   ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 16/19] tests/boot_linux_console: add a test for arm " Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41   ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 17/19] tests/boot_linux_console: add a test for s390x + s390-ccw-virtio Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41   ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 18/19] tests/boot_linux_console: add a test for alpha + clipper Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41   ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 19/19] configure: automatically pick python3 is available Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03  0:41   ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03 16:41   ` Thomas Huth
2019-05-03 16:41     ` Thomas Huth
2019-05-03 16:54     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-05-03 16:54       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-05-03 16:56       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-05-03 16:56         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-05-03 17:04     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-05-03 17:04       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-05-04  6:41       ` Thomas Huth
2019-05-04  6:41         ` Thomas Huth
2019-05-03 21:00     ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03 21:00       ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03 21:34       ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-03 21:34         ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-04  7:17         ` Thomas Huth
2019-05-04  7:17           ` Thomas Huth
2019-05-03 15:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 00/19] Python queue, 2019-05-02 Peter Maydell
2019-05-03 15:02   ` Peter Maydell

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