From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
Cc: Collin Walling <walling@linux.ibm.com>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
mst@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, pasic@linux.ibm.com,
qemu-s390x@nongnu.org, pbonzini@redhat.com, rth@twiddle.net
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4] s390: diagnose 318 info reset and migration support
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 10:49:34 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190514104934.6bba9232.cohuck@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <066c7470-94a3-a922-9a12-1ca42e474c51@de.ibm.com>
On Tue, 14 May 2019 10:37:32 +0200
Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com> wrote:
> On 14.05.19 09:28, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> >>>> But that can be tested using the runability information if I am not wrong.
> >>>
> >>> You mean the cpu level information, right?
> >
> > Yes, query-cpu-definition includes for each model runability information
> > via "unavailable-features" (valid under the started QEMU machine).
> >
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> and others that we have today.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So yes, I think this would be acceptable.
> >>>>
> >>>> I guess it is acceptable yes. I doubt anybody uses that many CPUs in
> >>>> production either way. But you never know.
> >>>
> >>> I think that using that many cpus is a more uncommon setup, but I still
> >>> think that having to wait for actual failure
> >>
> >> That can happen all the time today. You can easily say z14 in the xml when
> >> on a zEC12. Only at startup you get the error. The question is really:
> >
> > "-smp 248 -cpu host" will no longer work, while e.g. "-smp 248 -cpu z12"
> > will work. Actually, even "-smp 248" will no longer work on affected
> > machines.
> >
> > That is why wonder if it is better to disable the feature and print a
> > warning. Similar to CMMA, where want want to tolerate when CMMA is not
> > possible in the current environment (huge pages).
> >
> > "Diag318 will not be enabled because it is not compatible with more than
> > 240 CPUs".
> >
> > However, I still think that implementing support for more than one SCLP
> > response page is the best solution. Guests will need adaptions for > 240
> > CPUs with Diag318, but who cares? Existing setups will continue to work.
> >
> > Implementing that SCLP thingy will avoid any warnings and any errors. It
> > just works from the QEMU perspective.
> >
> > Is implementing this realistic?
>
> Yes it is but it will take time. I will try to get this rolling. To make
> progress on the diag318 thing, can we error on startup now and simply
> remove that check when when have implemented a larger sccb? If we would
> now do all kinds of "change the max number games" would be harder to "fix".
So, the idea right now is:
- fail to start if you try to specify a diag318 device and more than
240 cpus (do we need a knob to turn off the device?)
- in the future, support more than one SCLP response page
I'm getting a bit lost in the discussion; but the above sounds
reasonable to me.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-05-14 8:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-05-01 22:31 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4] s390: diagnose 318 info reset and migration support Collin Walling
2019-05-01 22:31 ` Collin Walling
2019-05-09 9:58 ` Christian Borntraeger
2019-05-09 10:05 ` David Hildenbrand
2019-05-09 20:50 ` Collin Walling
2019-05-13 5:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [qemu-s390x] " Thomas Huth
2019-05-13 7:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " David Hildenbrand
2019-05-13 8:03 ` David Hildenbrand
2019-05-13 9:34 ` Christian Borntraeger
2019-05-13 9:40 ` David Hildenbrand
2019-05-13 9:51 ` Christian Borntraeger
2019-05-13 9:57 ` David Hildenbrand
2019-05-13 10:55 ` Christian Borntraeger
2019-05-13 11:34 ` David Hildenbrand
2019-05-13 11:46 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-14 7:09 ` Christian Borntraeger
2019-05-14 7:28 ` David Hildenbrand
2019-05-14 8:37 ` Christian Borntraeger
2019-05-14 8:49 ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2019-05-14 8:53 ` Christian Borntraeger
2019-05-14 8:59 ` David Hildenbrand
2019-05-14 9:07 ` Christian Borntraeger
2019-05-14 9:12 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-14 9:10 ` Christian Borntraeger
2019-05-14 9:20 ` David Hildenbrand
2019-05-14 9:23 ` Christian Borntraeger
2019-05-14 9:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [qemu-s390x] " Christian Borntraeger
2019-05-14 9:27 ` David Hildenbrand
2019-05-14 9:30 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-16 13:35 ` Collin Walling
2019-05-16 14:10 ` Christian Borntraeger
2019-05-14 8:50 ` [Qemu-devel] " David Hildenbrand
2019-05-14 8:56 ` Christian Borntraeger
2019-05-14 9:00 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-14 9:03 ` David Hildenbrand
2019-05-14 9:05 ` David Hildenbrand
2019-05-14 9:00 ` David Hildenbrand
2019-05-14 9:04 ` Christian Borntraeger
2019-05-16 12:42 ` Collin Walling
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