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From: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
To: Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>
Cc: "peter.maydell@linaro.org" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"imammedo@redhat.com" <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	"dgilbert@redhat.com" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] How do we do user input bitmap properties?
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 11:53:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190515105352.GP28398@e103592.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190515081520.nazchdnludojzfqe@kamzik.brq.redhat.com>

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 09:15:20AM +0100, Andrew Jones wrote:
> On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 03:32:13PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> > Syntax that can support such growth would be nice.
> > 
> > To grow a single unsigned number, we can make it wider (but we don't
> > have infrastructure for numbers wider than 64 bits), or we can add more
> > numbers (but under what name?).
> > 
> > Dotted keys syntax could grow more easily, but it's rather awkward.
> > 
> > Looking more closely at your "[PATCH 11/13] target/arm/cpu64: max cpu:
> > Introduce sve-vls-map"... your syntax reflects your data structure:
> > property "sve-vls-map" is of type uint64_t, and interpreted as bit set.
> > This data type would have to grow, too.
> > 
> > We could make widen the integer property (but we don't have
> > infrastructure for integer properties wider than 64 bits), or we can
> > turn it into an array of integers (compatibility?), or we can add more
> > properties to hold the additional integers (yet another silly way to
> > represent a list/array of integers).
> > 
> > I'm not asking you to complicate things just to future-proof this.  Just
> > pause and think whether you can pick a data type that's similarly
> > convenient now, and easier to grow.
> > 
> > Then pick an external syntax for this data type.  You may have to pick a
> > reasonable compromise between ease of implementation and ease of use.
> 
> Widening the integer property sounds good to me. I just hadn't thought of
> it (implementation tunnel vision affecting my user interface design).
> Andrea also mentioned that as a possibility in a reply to the series. I
> think we can leave the property as a uint64_t right now and then, when/if
> it needs to expand past 64 bits we can change the property to a string
> and start parsing arbitrarily large integers from it. The internal state,
> 'uint64_t sve_vls_map' can easily be changed to a 'uint64_t sve_vls_map[]'
> at that point too. How's that sound?

Having an arbitrary-width integer should work.

It will suck a bit for the common case of sparse vector length support

	0x8000000000000000800000008000808b

(= [ 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128 ] quadwords)

Since lengths above 16 quadwords remain theoretical for now though it's
probably OK as a compromise, though.

The most human-compatible approach would be some kind of list
comprehension syntax, but it's hard to justify that adding a whole new
syntax is justified at this point.

[...]

Cheers
---Dave


  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-15 11:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-18  9:28 [Qemu-devel] How do we do user input bitmap properties? Andrew Jones
2019-04-18  9:28 ` Andrew Jones
2019-04-18  9:46 ` Andrew Jones
2019-04-18  9:46   ` Andrew Jones
2019-04-18 10:52   ` Dave Martin
2019-04-18 10:52     ` Dave Martin
2019-04-18 11:28     ` Andrew Jones
2019-04-18 11:28       ` Andrew Jones
2019-04-18 14:03       ` Dave Martin
2019-04-18 14:03         ` Dave Martin
2019-04-18 14:43         ` Andrew Jones
2019-04-18 14:43           ` Andrew Jones
2019-04-18 14:46           ` Dave Martin
2019-04-18 14:46             ` Dave Martin
2019-04-18 14:57           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-04-18 14:57             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-04-18 11:26 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-18 11:26   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-18 15:09   ` Andrew Jones
2019-04-18 15:09     ` Andrew Jones
2019-04-18 17:48   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-04-18 17:48     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-05-13 18:42     ` Andrew Jones
2019-05-14  4:54       ` Markus Armbruster
2019-05-14  9:02         ` Andrew Jones
2019-05-14 13:32           ` Markus Armbruster
2019-05-15  8:15             ` Andrew Jones
2019-05-15 10:53               ` Dave Martin [this message]
2019-05-15 10:59                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-05-14 14:48           ` Igor Mammedov
2019-05-15  8:18             ` Andrew Jones
2019-05-15 10:52               ` Igor Mammedov
2019-05-15 11:54                 ` Andrew Jones
2019-05-23  8:35                   ` Andrea Bolognani
2019-05-24 18:24                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-27 16:29                       ` Andrea Bolognani
2019-05-27 18:59                         ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-15 11:00               ` Dave Martin
2019-05-15 11:09                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-05-15 12:51                   ` Dave Martin
2019-05-15 11:42                 ` Andrew Jones
2019-05-15 12:50                   ` Dave Martin
2019-05-14 15:28         ` Dave Martin
2019-04-19  0:07 ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-04-19  0:07   ` Laszlo Ersek

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