From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: Jens Freimann <jfreimann@redhat.com>
Cc: pkrempa@redhat.com, berrange@redhat.com, ehabkost@redhat.com,
mst@redhat.com, aadam@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
laine@redhat.com, ailan@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] add failover feature for assigned network devices
Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 16:56:57 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190520165657.2293c5d7@x1.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190517125820.2885-1-jfreimann@redhat.com>
On Fri, 17 May 2019 14:58:16 +0200
Jens Freimann <jfreimann@redhat.com> wrote:
> This is another attempt at implementing the host side of the
> net_failover concept
> (https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/networking/net_failover.html)
>
> Changes since last RFC:
> - work around circular dependency of commandline options. Just add
> failover=on to the virtio-net standby options and reference it from
> primary (vfio-pci) device with standby=<id>
> - add patch 3/4 to allow migration of vfio-pci device when it is part of a
> failover pair, still disallow for all other devices
> - add patch 4/4 to allow unplug of device during migrationm, make an
> exception for failover primary devices. I'd like feedback on how to
> solve this more elegant. I added a boolean to DeviceState, have it
> default to false for all devices except for primary devices.
> - not tested yet with surprise removal
> - I don't expect this to go in as it is, still needs more testing but
> I'd like to get feedback on above mentioned changes.
>
> The general idea is that we have a pair of devices, a vfio-pci and a
> emulated device. Before migration the vfio device is unplugged and data
> flows to the emulated device, on the target side another vfio-pci device
> is plugged in to take over the data-path. In the guest the net_failover
> module will pair net devices with the same MAC address.
>
> * In the first patch the infrastructure for hiding the device is added
> for the qbus and qdev APIs.
>
> * In the second patch the virtio-net uses the API to defer adding the vfio
> device until the VIRTIO_NET_F_STANDBY feature is acked.
>
> Previous discussion:
> RFC v1 https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/cover/989098/
> RFC v2 https://www.mail-archive.com/qemu-devel@nongnu.org/msg606906.html
>
> To summarize concerns/feedback from previous discussion:
> 1.- guest OS can reject or worse _delay_ unplug by any amount of time.
> Migration might get stuck for unpredictable time with unclear reason.
> This approach combines two tricky things, hot/unplug and migration.
> -> We can surprise-remove the PCI device and in QEMU we can do all
> necessary rollbacks transparent to management software. Will it be
> easy, probably not.
> 2. PCI devices are a precious ressource. The primary device should never
> be added to QEMU if it won't be used by guest instead of hiding it in
> QEMU.
> -> We only hotplug the device when the standby feature bit was
> negotiated. We save the device cmdline options until we need it for
> qdev_device_add()
> Hiding a device can be a useful concept to model. For example a
> pci device in a powered-off slot could be marked as hidden until the slot is
> powered on (mst).
> 3. Management layer software should handle this. Open Stack already has
> components/code to handle unplug/replug VFIO devices and metadata to
> provide to the guest for detecting which devices should be paired.
> -> An approach that includes all software from firmware to
> higher-level management software wasn't tried in the last years. This is
> an attempt to keep it simple and contained in QEMU as much as possible.
> 4. Hotplugging a device and then making it part of a failover setup is
> not possible
> -> addressed by extending qdev hotplug functions to check for hidden
> attribute, so e.g. device_add can be used to plug a device.
>
>
> I have tested this with a mlx5 NIC and was able to migrate the VM with
> above mentioned workarounds for open problems.
>
> Command line example:
>
> qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -m 3072 -smp 3 \
> -machine q35,kernel-irqchip=split -cpu host \
> -k fr \
> -serial stdio \
> -net none \
> -qmp unix:/tmp/qmp.socket,server,nowait \
> -monitor telnet:127.0.0.1:5555,server,nowait \
> -device pcie-root-port,id=root0,multifunction=on,chassis=0,addr=0xa \
> -device pcie-root-port,id=root1,bus=pcie.0,chassis=1 \
> -device pcie-root-port,id=root2,bus=pcie.0,chassis=2 \
> -netdev tap,script=/root/bin/bridge.sh,downscript=no,id=hostnet1,vhost=on \
> -device virtio-net-pci,netdev=hostnet1,id=net1,mac=52:54:00:6f:55:cc,bus=root2,failover=on \
> /root/rhel-guest-image-8.0-1781.x86_64.qcow2
>
> Then the primary device can be hotplugged via
> (qemu) device_add vfio-pci,host=5e:00.2,id=hostdev0,bus=root1,standby=net1
Is this standby= option only valid for Network/Ethernet class code
devices? If so, perhaps vfio-pci code should reject the option on any
non-ethernet devices. The option is also non-intuitive for users, only
through examples like above can we see it relates to the id of the
secondary device. Could we instead name it something like
"standby_net_failover_pair_id="?
Also, this feature requires matching MAC addresses per the description,
where is that done? Is it the user's responsibility to set the MAC on
the host device prior to the device_add? If so, is this actually not
only specific to ethernet devices, but ethernet VFs?
Finally, please copy me on code touching vfio. Thanks,
Alex
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-05-20 22:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-05-17 12:58 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] add failover feature for assigned network devices Jens Freimann
2019-05-17 12:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] migration: allow unplug during migration for failover devices Jens Freimann
2019-05-21 9:33 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-05-21 9:47 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-05-23 8:01 ` Jens Freimann
2019-05-23 15:37 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-05-17 12:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] qdev/qbus: Add hidden device support Jens Freimann
2019-05-21 11:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-17 12:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] net/virtio: add failover support Jens Freimann
2019-05-21 9:45 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-05-30 14:56 ` Jens Freimann
2019-05-30 17:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-30 18:00 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-05-30 18:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-30 18:22 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-30 23:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-31 17:01 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-31 18:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-31 18:42 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-31 18:45 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-05-31 20:29 ` Alex Williamson
2019-05-31 21:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-31 21:59 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-06-03 8:59 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-05-31 20:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-31 21:03 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-06-03 8:06 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-05-30 19:08 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-05-30 19:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-31 8:23 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-06-05 15:23 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-05-30 18:17 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-30 19:09 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-05-31 21:47 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-06-03 8:24 ` Jens Freimann
2019-06-03 9:26 ` Jens Freimann
2019-06-03 18:10 ` Laine Stump
2019-06-03 18:46 ` Alex Williamson
2019-06-05 15:20 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-06-06 15:00 ` Roman Kagan
2019-06-03 19:36 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-06-04 13:43 ` Jens Freimann
2019-06-04 14:09 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-06-04 17:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-06-04 19:00 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-06-07 14:14 ` Jens Freimann
2019-06-07 14:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-06-07 17:51 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-06-05 14:36 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-06-05 16:04 ` Laine Stump
2019-06-05 16:19 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-05-17 12:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] vfio/pci: unplug failover primary device before migration Jens Freimann
2019-05-20 22:56 ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2019-05-21 7:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] add failover feature for assigned network devices Jens Freimann
2019-05-21 11:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-21 18:49 ` Jens Freimann
2019-05-29 0:14 ` si-wei liu
2019-05-29 2:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-06-03 18:06 ` Laine Stump
2019-06-03 18:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-06-03 18:18 ` Laine Stump
2019-06-06 21:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-29 2:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-29 7:48 ` Jens Freimann
2019-05-30 18:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-31 15:12 ` Jens Freimann
2019-05-21 14:18 ` Alex Williamson
2019-05-21 8:37 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-05-21 10:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-21 19:17 ` Jens Freimann
2019-05-21 21:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-06-11 15:42 ` Laine Stump
2019-06-11 15:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-06-11 16:12 ` Laine Stump
2019-06-12 9:11 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-06-12 11:59 ` Jens Freimann
2019-06-12 15:54 ` Laine Stump
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