From: "Maxiwell S. Garcia" <maxiwell@linux.ibm.com>
To: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Cc: qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] [PATCH 1/1] spapr: Do not re-read the clock on pre_save handler on migration
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 17:18:51 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190523201851.llsufz6dfs3gzyc6@maxibm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190522232952.GN30423@umbus.fritz.box>
On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 09:29:52AM +1000, David Gibson wrote:
> On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 05:43:40PM -0300, Maxiwell S. Garcia wrote:
> > This handler was added in the commit:
> > 42043e4f1241: spapr: clock should count only if vm is running
> >
> > In a scenario without migration, this pre_save handler is not
> > triggered, so the 'stop/cont' commands save and restore the clock
> > in the function 'cpu_ppc_clock_vm_state_change.' The SW clock
> > in the guest doesn't know about this pause.
> >
> > If the command 'migrate' is called between 'stop' and 'cont',
> > the pre_save handler re-read the clock, and the SW clock in the
> > guest will know about the pause between 'stop' and 'migrate.'
> > If the guest is running a workload like HTC, a side-effect of
> > this is a lot of process stall messages (with call traces) in
> > the kernel guest.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Maxiwell S. Garcia <maxiwell@linux.ibm.com>
>
> What affect will this have on the clock for the case of migrations
> without a stop/cont around?
The guest timebase is saved when the VM stop running and restored when
the VM starts running again (cpu_ppc_clock_vm_state_change handler).
Migrations without stop/cont save the clock when the VM go to the
FINISH_MIGRATE state.
> The complicated thing here is that for
> *explicit* stops/continues we want to freeze the clock, however for
> the implicit stop/continue during migration downtime, we want to keep
> the clock running (logically), so that the guest time of day doesn't
> get out of sync on migration.
>
Not sure if the *implicit* word here is about commands from the libvirt
or any other orchestrator. QEMU itself doesn't know the intent behind the
command stop/cont. So, If we are using a guest to process a workload and
the manager tool decide to migrate our VM transparently, it's unpleasant
to see a lot of process stalls with call traces in the kernel log.
The high-level tools could sync the SW clock with the HW clock if this
behavior is required, keeping the QEMU stop/cont and stop/migrate/cont
consistent.
> > ---
> > hw/ppc/ppc.c | 24 ------------------------
> > 1 file changed, 24 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/hw/ppc/ppc.c b/hw/ppc/ppc.c
> > index ad20584f26..3fb50cbeee 100644
> > --- a/hw/ppc/ppc.c
> > +++ b/hw/ppc/ppc.c
> > @@ -1056,35 +1056,11 @@ void cpu_ppc_clock_vm_state_change(void *opaque, int running,
> > }
> > }
> >
> > -/*
> > - * When migrating, read the clock just before migration,
> > - * so that the guest clock counts during the events
> > - * between:
> > - *
> > - * * vm_stop()
> > - * *
> > - * * pre_save()
> > - *
> > - * This reduces clock difference on migration from 5s
> > - * to 0.1s (when max_downtime == 5s), because sending the
> > - * final pages of memory (which happens between vm_stop()
> > - * and pre_save()) takes max_downtime.
>
> Urgh.. this comment is confusing - 5s would be a ludicrously long
> max_downtime by modern standards.
>
> > - */
> > -static int timebase_pre_save(void *opaque)
> > -{
> > - PPCTimebase *tb = opaque;
> > -
> > - timebase_save(tb);
> > -
> > - return 0;
> > -}
> > -
> > const VMStateDescription vmstate_ppc_timebase = {
> > .name = "timebase",
> > .version_id = 1,
> > .minimum_version_id = 1,
> > .minimum_version_id_old = 1,
> > - .pre_save = timebase_pre_save,
> > .fields = (VMStateField []) {
> > VMSTATE_UINT64(guest_timebase, PPCTimebase),
> > VMSTATE_INT64(time_of_the_day_ns, PPCTimebase),
>
> --
> David Gibson | I'll have my music baroque, and my code
> david AT gibson.dropbear.id.au | minimalist, thank you. NOT _the_ _other_
> | _way_ _around_!
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-05-23 20:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-05-20 20:43 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/1] spapr: Do not re-read the clock on pre_save handler on migration Maxiwell S. Garcia
2019-05-20 20:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/1] " Maxiwell S. Garcia
2019-05-22 23:29 ` David Gibson
2019-05-23 20:18 ` Maxiwell S. Garcia [this message]
2019-05-30 1:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " David Gibson
2019-06-05 19:39 ` Maxiwell S. Garcia
2019-06-12 5:14 ` David Gibson
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