Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/2] implement the failover feature for assigned network devices

["Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>]

On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 05:35:26PM -0700, si-wei liu wrote:
> 
> 
> On 4/5/2019 4:22 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 05, 2019 at 09:56:29AM +0100, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > > * Jens Freimann (jfreimann@redhat.com) wrote:
> > > > ping
> > > > 
> > > > FYI: I'm also working on a few related tools to detect driver behaviour when
> > > > assigning a MAC to the vf device. Code is at https://github.com/jensfr/netfailover_driver_detect
> > > Hi Jens,
> > >    I've not been following this too uch, but:
> > > 
> > > > regards,
> > > > Jens
> > > > 
> > > > On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 02:44:45PM +0100, Jens Freimann wrote:
> > > > > This is another attempt at implementing the host side of the
> > > > > net_failover concept
> > > > > (https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/networking/net_failover.html)
> > > > > 
> > > > > The general idea is that we have a pair of devices, a vfio-pci and a
> > > > > emulated device. Before migration the vfio device is unplugged and data
> > > > > flows to the emulated device, on the target side another vfio-pci device
> > > > > is plugged in to take over the data-path. In the guest the net_failover
> > > > > module will pair net devices with the same MAC address.
> > > > > 
> > > > > * In the first patch the infrastructure for hiding the device is added
> > > > >   for the qbus and qdev APIs. A "hidden" boolean is added to the device
> > > > >   state and it is set based on a callback to the standby device which
> > > > >   registers itself for handling the assessment: "should the primary device
> > > > >   be hidden?" by cross validating the ids of the devices.
> > > > > 
> > > > > * In the second patch the virtio-net uses the API to hide the vfio
> > > > >   device and unhides it when the feature is acked.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Previous discussion: https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/cover/989098/
> > > > > 
> > > > > To summarize concerns/feedback from previous discussion:
> > > > > 1.- guest OS can reject or worse _delay_ unplug by any amount of time.
> > > > >   Migration might get stuck for unpredictable time with unclear reason.
> > > > >   This approach combines two tricky things, hot/unplug and migration.
> > > > >   -> We can surprise-remove the PCI device and in QEMU we can do all
> > > > >      necessary rollbacks transparent to management software. Will it be
> > > > >      easy, probably not.
> > > This sounds 'fun' - bonus cases are things like what happens if the
> > > guest gets rebooted somewhere during the process or if it's currently
> > > sitting in the bios/grub/etc
> > Um, during which process? Guests are gradually fixed to support
> > surprise removal well. Part of it is thunderbolt which makes
> > it incredibly easy. Yes - bios/grub will need to learn to
> > handle this well.
> I shared the same concern. As device emulator (QEMU), you know where guest
> would reject or delay - it's even agnostic bios/grub should respond to hot
> plug or not. You don't even know whether guest has the support for ACPI
> hotplug, surprise removal, do you? How QEMU infer what is the right
> disposition by telling apart these guest states?
> 
> -Siwei

We can always add a feature bit for that :)
No feature bit -> primary stays hidden.


> > 
> > > > > 2. PCI devices are a precious ressource. The primary device should never
> > > > >   be added to QEMU if it won't be used by guest instead of hiding it in
> > > > >   QEMU.
> > > > >   -> We only hotplug the device when the standby feature bit was
> > > > >      negotiated. We save the device cmdline options until we need it for
> > > > >      qdev_device_add()
> > > > >      Hiding a device can be a useful concept to model. For example a
> > > > >      pci device in a powered-off slot could be marked as hidden until the slot is
> > > > >      powered on (mst).
> > > Are they really that precious? Personally it's not something I'd worry
> > > about.
> > > 
> > > > > 3. Management layer software should handle this. Open Stack already has
> > > > >   components/code to handle unplug/replug VFIO devices and metadata to
> > > > >   provide to the guest for detecting which devices should be paired.
> > > > >   -> An approach that includes all software from firmware to
> > > > >      higher-level management software wasn't tried in the last years. This is
> > > > >      an attempt to keep it simple and contained in QEMU as much as possible.
> > > > > 4. Hotplugging a device and then making it part of a failover setup is
> > > > >    not possible
> > > > >   -> addressed by extending qdev hotplug functions to check for hidden
> > > > >      attribute, so e.g. device_add can be used to plug a device.
> > > > > 
> > > > > There are still some open issues:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Migration: I'm looking for something like a pre-migration hook that I
> > > > > could use to unplug the vfio-pci device. I tried with a migration
> > > > > notifier but it is called to late, i.e. after migration is aborted due
> > > > > to vfio-pci marked unmigrateable. I worked around this by setting it
> > > > > to migrateable and used a migration notifier on the virtio-net device.
> > > Why not just let this happen at the libvirt level; then you do the
> > > hotunplug etc before you actually tell qemu anything about starting a
> > > migration?
> > If qemu frees up resources (as it does on unplug) then libvirt
> > is not guaranteed it can roll the change back on e.g.
> > migration failure.
> > 
> > But really another issue is simply that it's a mechanism,
> > there's no policy that management needs to decide on.
> > Doing it at lowest possible level ensures all
> > upper layers benefit with minimal pain.
> > 
> > > > > Commandline: There is a dependency between vfio-pci and virtio-net
> > > > > devices. One points to the other via new parameters
> > > > > primar=<primary qdev id> and standby='<standby qdev id>'. This means
> > > > > that the primary device needs to be specified after standby device on
> > > > > the qemu command line. Not sure how to solve this.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Error handling: Patches don't cover all possible error scenarios yet.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have tested this with a mlx5 NIC and was able to migrate the VM with
> > > > > above mentioned workarounds for open problems.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Command line example:
> > > > > 
> > > > > qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -m 3072 -smp 3 \
> > > > >         -machine q35,kernel-irqchip=split -cpu host   \
> > > > >         -k fr   \
> > > > >         -serial stdio   \
> > > > >         -net none \
> > > > >         -qmp unix:/tmp/qmp.socket,server,nowait \
> > > > >         -monitor telnet:127.0.0.1:5555,server,nowait \
> > > > >         -device pcie-root-port,id=root0,multifunction=on,chassis=0,addr=0xa \
> > > > >         -device pcie-root-port,id=root1,bus=pcie.0,chassis=1 \
> > > > >         -device pcie-root-port,id=root2,bus=pcie.0,chassis=2 \
> > > > >         -netdev tap,script=/root/bin/bridge.sh,downscript=no,id=hostnet1,vhost=on \
> > > > >         -device virtio-net-pci,netdev=hostnet1,id=net1,mac=52:54:00:6f:55:cc,bus=root2,primary=hostdev0 \
> > > > >         -device vfio-pci,host=5e:00.2,id=hostdev0,bus=root1,standby=net1 \
> > > Yes, that's a bit grim; it's circular dependency on the 'hostdev0' and
> > > 'net1' id's.  cc'ing in Markus.
> > > 
> > > Dave
> > > 
> > > > >         /root/rhel-guest-image-8.0-1781.x86_64.qcow2
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm grateful for any remarks or ideas!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > 
> > > > > regards,
> > > > > Jens
> > > > > 
> > > > > Sameeh Jubran (2):
> > > > >   qdev/qbus: Add hidden device support
> > > > >   net/virtio: add failover support
> > > > > 
> > > > > hw/core/qdev.c                 | 27 ++++++++++
> > > > > hw/net/virtio-net.c            | 95 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > hw/pci/pci.c                   |  1 +
> > > > > include/hw/pci/pci.h           |  2 +
> > > > > include/hw/qdev-core.h         |  8 +++
> > > > > include/hw/virtio/virtio-net.h |  7 +++
> > > > > qdev-monitor.c                 | 48 +++++++++++++++--
> > > > > vl.c                           |  7 ++-
> > > > > 8 files changed, 189 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > -- 
> > > > > 2.20.1
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > --
> > > Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK