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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: si-wei liu <si-wei.liu@oracle.com>
Cc: pkrempa@redhat.com, berrange@redhat.com, ehabkost@redhat.com,
	aadam@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	laine@redhat.com, Jens Freimann <jfreimann@redhat.com>,
	ailan@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] add failover feature for assigned network devices
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 22:54:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190528225039-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d116bc65-0715-2c6a-2616-49f67cd685c8@oracle.com>

On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 05:14:22PM -0700, si-wei liu wrote:
> 
> 
> On 5/21/2019 11:49 AM, Jens Freimann wrote:
> > On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 07:37:19AM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 09:21:57AM +0200, Jens Freimann wrote:
> > > > On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 04:56:57PM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, 17 May 2019 14:58:16 +0200
> > > > > Jens Freimann <jfreimann@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Command line example:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -m 3072 -smp 3 \
> > > > > >         -machine q35,kernel-irqchip=split -cpu host   \
> > > > > >         -k fr   \
> > > > > >         -serial stdio   \
> > > > > >         -net none \
> > > > > >         -qmp unix:/tmp/qmp.socket,server,nowait \
> > > > > >         -monitor telnet:127.0.0.1:5555,server,nowait \
> > > > > >         -device
> > > > pcie-root-port,id=root0,multifunction=on,chassis=0,addr=0xa \
> > > > > >         -device pcie-root-port,id=root1,bus=pcie.0,chassis=1 \
> > > > > >         -device pcie-root-port,id=root2,bus=pcie.0,chassis=2 \
> > > > > >         -netdev
> > > > tap,script=/root/bin/bridge.sh,downscript=no,id=hostnet1,vhost=on
> > > > \
> > > > > >         -device virtio-net-pci,netdev=hostnet1,id=net1,mac=52:54:00:6f:55:cc,bus=root2,failover=on
> > > > \
> > > > > >         /root/rhel-guest-image-8.0-1781.x86_64.qcow2
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Then the primary device can be hotplugged via
> > > > > >  (qemu) device_add
> > > > vfio-pci,host=5e:00.2,id=hostdev0,bus=root1,standby=net1
> > > > >
> > > > > Is this standby= option only valid for Network/Ethernet class code
> > > > > devices?  If so, perhaps vfio-pci code should reject the
> > > > option on any
> > > > > non-ethernet devices.  The option is also non-intuitive for
> > > > users, only
> > > > > through examples like above can we see it relates to the id of the
> > > > > secondary device.  Could we instead name it something like
> > > > > "standby_net_failover_pair_id="?
> > > > 
> > > > It is only for ethernet (VFs), I will add code to reject
> > > > non-ethernet VF devices.
> > > > I agree the name is not descriptive and the one you suggest
> > > > seems good to
> > > > me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, this feature requires matching MAC addresses per the
> > > > description,
> > > > > where is that done?  Is it the user's responsibility to set
> > > > the MAC on
> > > > > the host device prior to the device_add?  If so, is this actually not
> > > > > only specific to ethernet devices, but ethernet VFs?
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, it's the users responsibility and the MACs are then matched by
> > > > the net_failover driver in the guest. It makes sense for
> > > > ethernet VFs only,
> > > > I'll add a check for that.
> > > 
> > > Actually is there a list of devices for which this has been tested
> > > besides mlx5? I think someone said some old intel cards
> > > don't support this well, we might need to blacklist these ...
> > 
> > So far I've tested mlx5 and XL710 which both worked, but I'm
> > working on testing with more devices. But of course help with testing
> > is greatly appreciated.
> It won't work on Intel ixgbe and Broadcom bnxt_en, which requires toggling
> the state of tap backing the virtio-net in order to release/reprogram MAC
> filter. Actually, it's very few NICs that could work with this - even some
> works by chance the behavior is undefined. Instead of blacklisting it makes
> more sense to whitelist the NIC that supports it - with some new sysfs
> attribute claiming the support presumably.
> 
> -Siwei

I agree for many cards we won't know how they behave until we try.  One
can consider this a bug in Linux that cards don't behave in a consistent
way.  The best thing to do IMHO would be to write a tool that people can
run to test the behaviour.


> > 
> > regards,
> > Jens


  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-29  2:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-17 12:58 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] add failover feature for assigned network devices Jens Freimann
2019-05-17 12:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] migration: allow unplug during migration for failover devices Jens Freimann
2019-05-21  9:33   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-05-21  9:47     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-05-23  8:01     ` Jens Freimann
2019-05-23 15:37       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-05-17 12:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] qdev/qbus: Add hidden device support Jens Freimann
2019-05-21 11:33   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-17 12:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] net/virtio: add failover support Jens Freimann
2019-05-21  9:45   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-05-30 14:56     ` Jens Freimann
2019-05-30 17:46       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-30 18:00         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-05-30 18:09           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-30 18:22             ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-30 23:06               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-31 17:01                 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-31 18:04                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-31 18:42                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-31 18:45                     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-05-31 20:29                       ` Alex Williamson
2019-05-31 21:05                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-31 21:59                           ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-06-03  8:59                         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-05-31 20:43                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-31 21:03                         ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-06-03  8:06                         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-05-30 19:08             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-05-30 19:21               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-31  8:23                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-06-05 15:23             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-05-30 18:17           ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-30 19:09       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-05-31 21:47       ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-06-03  8:24         ` Jens Freimann
2019-06-03  9:26           ` Jens Freimann
2019-06-03 18:10           ` Laine Stump
2019-06-03 18:46             ` Alex Williamson
2019-06-05 15:20               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-06-06 15:00               ` Roman Kagan
2019-06-03 19:36           ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-06-04 13:43             ` Jens Freimann
2019-06-04 14:09               ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-06-04 17:06               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-06-04 19:00                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-06-07 14:14                   ` Jens Freimann
2019-06-07 14:32                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-06-07 17:51                     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-06-05 14:36               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-06-05 16:04               ` Laine Stump
2019-06-05 16:19                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-05-17 12:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] vfio/pci: unplug failover primary device before migration Jens Freimann
2019-05-20 22:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] add failover feature for assigned network devices Alex Williamson
2019-05-21  7:21   ` Jens Freimann
2019-05-21 11:37     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-21 18:49       ` Jens Freimann
2019-05-29  0:14         ` si-wei liu
2019-05-29  2:54           ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2019-06-03 18:06             ` Laine Stump
2019-06-03 18:12               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-06-03 18:18                 ` Laine Stump
2019-06-06 21:49                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-29  2:40         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-29  7:48           ` Jens Freimann
2019-05-30 18:12             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-31 15:12               ` Jens Freimann
2019-05-21 14:18     ` Alex Williamson
2019-05-21  8:37 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-05-21 10:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-21 19:17   ` Jens Freimann
2019-05-21 21:43     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-06-11 15:42 ` Laine Stump
2019-06-11 15:51   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-06-11 16:12     ` Laine Stump
2019-06-12  9:11   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-06-12 11:59     ` Jens Freimann
2019-06-12 15:54       ` Laine Stump

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