From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Roman Kagan <rkagan@virtuozzo.com>,
Andrey Shinkevich <andrey.shinkevich@virtuozzo.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org, mreitz@redhat.com,
berrange@redhat.com, den@openvz.org, vsementsov@virtuozzo.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 2/7] iotests: exclude killed processes from running under Valgrind
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 16:51:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190617145124.GJ7397@linux.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190617132043.GE32624@rkaganb.sw.ru>
Am 17.06.2019 um 15:20 hat Roman Kagan geschrieben:
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 02:53:55PM +0200, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> > Am 17.06.2019 um 14:18 hat Roman Kagan geschrieben:
> > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 01:15:04PM +0200, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> > > > Am 11.06.2019 um 20:02 hat Andrey Shinkevich geschrieben:
> > > > > The Valgrind tool fails to manage its termination when QEMU raises the
> > > > > signal SIGKILL. Lets exclude such test cases from running under the
> > > > > Valgrind because there is no sense to check memory issues that way.
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Andrey Shinkevich <andrey.shinkevich@virtuozzo.com>
> > > >
> > > > I don't fully understand the reasoning here. Most interesting memory
> > > > access errors happen before a process terminates. (I'm not talking about
> > > > leaks here, but use-after-free, buffer overflows, uninitialised memory
> > > > etc.)
> > >
> > > Nothing of the above, and nothing in general, happens in the usermode
> > > process upon SIGKILL delivery.
> >
> > My point is, the interesting part is what the program does before
> > SIGKILL happens. There is value in reporting memory errors as long as we
> > can, even if the final check doesn't happen because of SIGKILL.
>
> Agreed in general, but here the testcases that include 'sigraise 9' only
> do simple operations before that which are covered elsewhere too. So
> the extra effort on making valgrind work with these testcases arguably
> isn't worth the extra value to be gained.
Ok, fair enough.
> > > > However, I do see that running these test cases with -valgrind ends in a
> > > > hang because the valgrind process keeps hanging around as a zombie
> > > > process and the test case doesn't reap it. I'm not exactly sure why that
> > > > is, but it looks more like a problem with the parent process (i.e. the
> > > > bash script).
> > >
> > > It rather looks like valgrind getting confused about what to do with
> > > raise(SIGKILL) in the multithreaded case.
> >
> > Well, valgrind can't do anything with SIGKILL, obviously, because it's
> > killed immediately.
>
> Right, but it can do whatever it wants with raise(SIGKILL). I haven't
> looked at valgrind sources, but
>
> # strace -ff valgind qemu-io -c 'sigraise 9'
>
> shows SIGKILL neither sent nor received by any thread; it just shows the
> main thread exit and the second thread getting stuck waiting on a futex.
Oh, I didn't see this! So there isn't even a real SIGKILL signal.
> > But maybe the kernel does get confused for some
> > reason. I get the main threads as a zombie, but a second is still
> > running. Sending SIGKILL to the second thread, too, makes the test case
> > complete successfully.
> >
> > So I guess the main question is why the second thread isn't
> > automatically killed when the main thread receives SIGKILL.
>
> I don't see any thread receive SIGKILL. So I tend to think this is
> valgrind's bug/feature.
>
> Anyway the problem is outside of QEMU, so I think we need to weigh the
> costs of investigating it and implementing a workaround with the
> potential benefit.
I'd suggest to file a bug against valgrind at least. And indeed just
disable valgrind here like this patch does.
Kevin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-06-17 15:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-06-11 18:02 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/7] Allow Valgrind checking all QEMU processes Andrey Shinkevich
2019-06-11 18:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 1/7] iotests: allow " Andrey Shinkevich
2019-06-13 9:44 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-06-27 15:08 ` Andrey Shinkevich
2019-06-13 9:45 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-06-11 18:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 2/7] iotests: exclude killed processes from running under Valgrind Andrey Shinkevich
2019-06-13 9:47 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-06-17 11:57 ` Roman Kagan
2019-06-17 11:15 ` Kevin Wolf
2019-06-17 12:18 ` Roman Kagan
2019-06-17 12:53 ` Kevin Wolf
2019-06-17 13:20 ` Roman Kagan
2019-06-17 14:51 ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2019-06-24 16:55 ` Andrey Shinkevich
2019-06-11 18:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 3/7] iotests: Valgrind fails to work with nonexistent directory Andrey Shinkevich
2019-06-13 9:52 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-06-17 11:22 ` Kevin Wolf
2019-06-11 18:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 4/7] iotests: extended timeout under Valgrind Andrey Shinkevich
2019-06-13 9:54 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-06-11 18:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 5/7] iotests: extend sleeping time " Andrey Shinkevich
2019-06-13 9:55 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-06-11 18:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 6/7] iotests: amend QEMU NBD process synchronization Andrey Shinkevich
2019-06-13 9:59 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-06-17 12:45 ` Roman Kagan
2019-06-17 12:38 ` Roman Kagan
2019-06-11 18:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 7/7] iotests: new file to suppress Valgrind errors Andrey Shinkevich
2019-06-13 10:06 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-06-24 16:55 ` Andrey Shinkevich
2019-06-24 17:09 ` Eric Blake
2019-06-24 17:23 ` Andrey Shinkevich
2019-06-17 11:45 ` Kevin Wolf
2019-06-24 16:55 ` Andrey Shinkevich
2019-06-25 8:13 ` Kevin Wolf
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