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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: fam@euphon.net, qemu-block@nongnu.org, mst@redhat.com,
	Dmitry Fomichev <dmitry.fomichev@wdc.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, mreitz@redhat.com, stefanha@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] virtio: handle zoned backing devices
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 13:02:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190710110241.GB6501@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f790cb77-fa6a-c304-bc7f-62bbede78751@redhat.com>

Am 10.07.2019 um 12:09 hat Paolo Bonzini geschrieben:
> On 09/07/19 22:38, Dmitry Fomichev wrote:
> > Currently, attaching zoned block devices (i.e. storage devices
> > compliant to ZAC/ZBC standards) using several virtio methods doesn't
> > work - the zoned devices appear as regular block devices at the guest.
> > This may cause unexpected i/o errors and, potentially, some data
> > corruption.
> > 
> > To be more precise, attaching a zoned device via virtio-pci-blk,
> > virtio-scsi-pci/scsi-disk or virtio-scsi-pci/scsi-hd demonstrates the
> > above behavior. A simple fix is needed to make
> > virtio-scsi-pci/scsi-block work and this is covered by a different
> > patch. The virtio-scsi-pci/scsi-generic method appears to handle zoned
> > devices without problems.
> 
> The problem with this approach is that other devices (e.g. ide-hd or sd
> card) also break with zoned devices and the only way to fix it would be
> to add code denying zoned block devices to all of them.
> 
> The question then becomes how to define a whitelist.  One possiblity is
> to add a QOM interface (for example TYPE_ZONED_BLOCK_SUPPORT) to
> scsi-block and scsi-generic.  In do_parse_drive you can query the
> BlockBackend with bdrv_get_zoned_info, and return an error if the
> backend is a zoned block device and the device does not implement
> TYPE_ZONED_BLOCK_SUPPORT.  (Commit 6b1566c is an example of adding a new
> QOM interface; in your case, it would be simpler as the interface would
> not have any method).  Kevin, what do you think?

What about non-device users such as block jobs or (NBD) exports? Won't
they have to special-case such devices, too? In fact, what about image
format drivers or even filters?

I feel that this needs to be managed at the BDS level somehow. Not sure
which mechanism to use, though. Permissions would be suitable for a
blacklist approach, but I agree with you that we need a whitelist
instead.

Hm... Actually, file-posix implements .bdrv_check_perm and could just
refuse attaching a parent there if it doesn't request a specific
permission like BLK_PERM_SUPPORT_ZONED. That should give us the
whitelist semantics through existing infrastructure.

Kevin


  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-10 11:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-09 20:38 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] virtio: handle zoned backing devices Dmitry Fomichev
2019-07-09 20:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] block: Add zoned device model property Dmitry Fomichev
2019-07-09 20:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] raw: Recognize zoned backing devices Dmitry Fomichev
2019-07-09 20:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] virtio-blk: Don't realize zoned block devices Dmitry Fomichev
2019-07-09 20:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] hw/scsi: Don't realize zoned block devices for virtio-scsi legacy drivers Dmitry Fomichev
2019-07-10 10:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] virtio: handle zoned backing devices Paolo Bonzini
2019-07-10 11:02   ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2019-07-10 11:33     ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-07-10 21:09       ` Kevin Wolf
2019-07-11  0:52         ` Dmitry Fomichev
2019-07-11  8:04           ` Paolo Bonzini

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