From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru>
Cc: Shawn Anastasio <shawn@anastas.io>,
qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] spapr_pci: Advertise BAR reallocation capability
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 11:18:17 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190712011817.GD2561@umbus.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <02bf721f-26e6-91d4-88ec-371e959e4161@ozlabs.ru>
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On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 11:37:45AM +1000, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
>
>
> On 12/06/2019 16:11, David Gibson wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 06, 2019 at 02:09:19PM +1000, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
> >> The pseries guests do not normally allocate PCI resouces and rely on
> >> the system firmware doing so. Furthermore at least at some point in
> >> the past the pseries guests won't even be allowed to change BARs, probably
> >> it is still the case for phyp. So since the initial commit we have [1]
> >> which prevents resource reallocation.
> >>
> >> This is not a problem until we want specific BAR alignments, for example,
> >> PAGE_SIZE==64k to make sure we can still map MMIO BARs directly. For
> >> the boot time devices we handle this in SLOF [2] but since QEMU's RTAS
> >> does not allocate BARs, the guest does this instead and does not align
> >> BARs even if Linux is given pci=resource_alignment=16@pci:0:0 as
> >> PCI_PROBE_ONLY makes Linux ignore alignment requests.
> >>
> >> ARM folks added a dial to control PCI_PROBE_ONLY via the device tree [3].
> >> This makes use of the dial to advertise to the guest that we can handle
> >> BAR reassignments.
> >>
> >> We do not remove the flag from [1] as pseries guests are still supported
> >> under phyp so having that removed may cause problems.
> >>
> >> [1] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/arch/powerpc/platforms/pseries/setup.c?h=v5.1#n773
> >> [2] https://git.qemu.org/?p=SLOF.git;a=blob;f=board-qemu/slof/pci-phb.fs;h=06729bcf77a0d4e900c527adcd9befe2a269f65d;hb=HEAD#l338
> >> [3] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=f81c11af
> >> Signed-off-by: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru>
> >
> > Changing a guest visible property, that could have a big effect on how
> > the guest behaves, without a machine version change seems... unwise.
>
>
> As a general rule - sure, not good. In this particular case QEMU has
> always been able to cope with BAR reallocations.
That's not really the point. What I'm worried about is some old
kernel version running on a guest in the wild having a bug here and
the supposedly compatible qemu change breaking it.
> What could probably
> make sense is having it as a machine option (pci-probe-only=off by
> default) in case if we find some old kernel which cannot handle
> "linux,pci-probe-only" but I seriously doubt we'll find such a broken
> kernel - I do remove the probe-only switch from guest kernels on a
> regular basis last 7 or so years when debugging.
Yeah, doing it when debugging isn't really the same as exercising it
in production environments.
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Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-06-06 4:09 [Qemu-devel] spapr_pci: Advertise BAR reallocation capability Alexey Kardashevskiy
2019-06-06 4:13 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2019-06-06 4:24 ` David Gibson
2019-06-12 6:11 ` David Gibson
2019-06-13 1:37 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2019-07-12 1:18 ` David Gibson [this message]
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