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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
To: Balamuruhan S <bala24@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: maddy@linux.vnet.ibm.com, anju@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, hari@linux.vnet.ibm.com, clg@kaod.org,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, david@gibson.dropbear.id.au
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/6] Enhancing Qemu MMIO emulation with scripting interface
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 11:25:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190808102547.GE1999@stefanha-x1.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190807071445.4109-1-bala24@linux.ibm.com>

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On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 12:44:39PM +0530, Balamuruhan S wrote:
> This is a proposal to extend mmio callbacks in Qemu with scripting interface
> that is prototyped with python in this implementation. It gives ability to
> feed runtime data through callbacks without recompiling Qemu in generic way.
> This patchset adds library that provides APIs for Qemu to talk with python
> scripts placed in path -module-path and how existing xscom can be extended
> with python interface infrastructure.
> 
> We have also added an hacky emulation for memory region (OCC common area and HOMER)
> which is shared between core and un-core engine (ideally this should be via
> sram device) to showcase the effectiveness of having the scripting interface
> (uncore engine taken for discussion here is powerpc specificed called OCC).
> Having scripting interface helps to emulate/test different uncore-core
> interactions including uncore engine failure or hang. It also helps in feeding
> randomized data at byte level access. This patchset is primarily to extend mmio
> callbacks with scripting interface and to demonstrate effectiveness it.
> 
> Some changes are required in PowerPC skiboot tree to test these changes since
> the memory region is disabled currently for Qemu emulated PowerNV host,
> https://github.com/balamuruhans/skiboot/commit/a655514d2a730e0372a2faee277d1cf01f71a524

Although writing Python is quick and easy, carefully wiring up the
Python C API for it is not.  In practice you lose much of the benefit of
Python if you need to study the Python C API every time you wish to do
some quick scripting :(.

It must be possible to compile out the Python integration code.  If the
Python integration code remains in the device model then the QEMU binary
has a dependency on libpython, which is undesirable when this feature is
not in use.

Assuming this feature can be compiled out, I think it should have a
chance to prove its usefulness and gain users.  Documentation and an
active maintainer are essential.

Stefan

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-08-08 10:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-07  7:14 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/6] Enhancing Qemu MMIO emulation with scripting interface Balamuruhan S
2019-08-07  7:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/6] utils/python_api: add scripting interface for Qemu with python lib Balamuruhan S
2019-08-07 10:20   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-08 10:10     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-08-08 10:33       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-08 10:53       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-08-09  8:46         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-08-12  4:53           ` Balamuruhan S
2019-08-08 10:09   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-08-11  6:39     ` Balamuruhan S
2019-08-08 10:49   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-08-08 12:45     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-09  4:39       ` David Gibson
2019-08-12  4:45       ` Balamuruhan S
2019-08-07  7:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 2/6] hw/ppc/pnv_xscom: extend xscom to use python interface Balamuruhan S
2019-08-08  9:04   ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-08-07  7:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 3/6] hw/ppc/pnv_homer: add homer/occ common area emulation for PowerNV Balamuruhan S
2019-08-07  7:54   ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-08-07 10:07     ` Balamuruhan S
2019-08-08  8:32       ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-08-09  4:44     ` David Gibson
2019-08-11  6:34       ` Balamuruhan S
2019-08-07  7:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 4/6] hw/ppc/pnv: initialize and realize homer/occ common area Balamuruhan S
2019-08-07  7:59   ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-08-07 10:12     ` Balamuruhan S
2019-08-08  8:46       ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-08-09  4:45   ` David Gibson
2019-08-07  7:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 5/6] hw/ppc/pnv_xscom: retrieve homer/occ base address from PBA BARs Balamuruhan S
2019-08-07  8:01   ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-08-07 10:22     ` Balamuruhan S
2019-08-09  4:45   ` David Gibson
2019-08-07  7:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 6/6] hw/ppc/pnv_homer: add python interface support for homer/occ common area Balamuruhan S
2019-08-07 10:27   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-11  6:05     ` Balamuruhan S
2019-08-09  4:46   ` David Gibson
2019-08-11  6:19     ` Balamuruhan S
2019-08-07  7:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/6] Enhancing Qemu MMIO emulation with scripting interface no-reply
2019-08-07  8:15 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-08-07 10:16   ` Balamuruhan S
2019-08-09  4:49   ` David Gibson
2019-08-12  5:07     ` Balamuruhan S
2019-08-07  8:51 ` no-reply
2019-08-07  9:18 ` no-reply
2019-08-08 10:25 ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2019-08-12  6:03   ` Balamuruhan S

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