From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: "Zhengxiao.zx@Alibaba-inc.com" <Zhengxiao.zx@Alibaba-inc.com>,
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"Ken.Xue@amd.com" <Ken.Xue@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 01/13] vfio: KABI for migration interface
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2019 10:32:52 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190830103252.2b427144@x1.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D19D553184@SHSMSX104.ccr.corp.intel.com>
On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 08:06:32 +0000
"Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com> wrote:
> > From: Tian, Kevin
> > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 3:26 PM
> >
> [...]
> > > How does QEMU handle the fact that IOVAs are potentially dynamic while
> > > performing the live portion of a migration? For example, each time a
> > > guest driver calls dma_map_page() or dma_unmap_page(), a
> > > MemoryRegionSection pops in or out of the AddressSpace for the device
> > > (I'm assuming a vIOMMU where the device AddressSpace is not
> > > system_memory). I don't see any QEMU code that intercepts that change
> > > in the AddressSpace such that the IOVA dirty pfns could be recorded and
> > > translated to GFNs. The vendor driver can't track these beyond getting
> > > an unmap notification since it only knows the IOVA pfns, which can be
> > > re-used with different GFN backing. Once the DMA mapping is torn down,
> > > it seems those dirty pfns are lost in the ether. If this works in QEMU,
> > > please help me find the code that handles it.
> >
> > I'm curious about this part too. Interestingly, I didn't find any log_sync
> > callback registered by emulated devices in Qemu. Looks dirty pages
> > by emulated DMAs are recorded in some implicit way. But KVM always
> > reports dirty page in GFN instead of IOVA, regardless of the presence of
> > vIOMMU. If Qemu also tracks dirty pages in GFN for emulated DMAs
> > (translation can be done when DMA happens), then we don't need
> > worry about transient mapping from IOVA to GFN. Along this way we
> > also want GFN-based dirty bitmap being reported through VFIO,
> > similar to what KVM does. For vendor drivers, it needs to translate
> > from IOVA to HVA to GFN when tracking DMA activities on VFIO
> > devices. IOVA->HVA is provided by VFIO. for HVA->GFN, it can be
> > provided by KVM but I'm not sure whether it's exposed now.
> >
>
> HVA->GFN can be done through hva_to_gfn_memslot in kvm_host.h.
I thought it was bad enough that we have vendor drivers that depend on
KVM, but designing a vfio interface that only supports a KVM interface
is more undesirable. I also note without comment that gfn_to_memslot()
is a GPL symbol. Thanks,
Alex
> Above flow works for software-tracked dirty mechanism, e.g. in
> KVMGT, where GFN-based 'dirty' is marked when a guest page is
> mapped into device mmu. IOVA->HPA->GFN translation is done
> at that time, thus immune from further IOVA->GFN changes.
>
> When hardware IOMMU supports D-bit in 2nd level translation (e.g.
> VT-d rev3.0), there are two scenarios:
>
> 1) nested translation: guest manages 1st-level translation (IOVA->GPA)
> and host manages 2nd-level translation (GPA->HPA). The 2nd-level
> is not affected by guest mapping operations. So it's OK for IOMMU
> driver to retrieve GFN-based dirty pages by directly scanning the 2nd-
> level structure, upon request from user space.
>
> 2) shadowed translation (IOVA->HPA) in 2nd level: in such case the dirty
> information is tied to IOVA. the IOMMU driver is expected to maintain
> an internal dirty bitmap. Upon any change of IOVA->GPA notification
> from VFIO, the IOMMU driver should flush dirty status of affected 2nd-level
> entries to the internal GFN-based bitmap. At this time, again IOVA->HVA
> ->GPA translation required for GFN-based recording. When userspace
> queries dirty bitmap, the IOMMU driver needs to flush latest 2nd-level
> dirty status to internal bitmap, which is then copied to user space.
>
> Given the trickiness of 2), we aim to enable 1) on intel-iommu driver.
>
> Thanks
> Kevin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-08-30 16:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-08-26 18:55 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 00/13] Add migration support for VFIO device Kirti Wankhede
2019-08-26 18:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 01/13] vfio: KABI for migration interface Kirti Wankhede
2019-08-28 20:50 ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-30 7:25 ` Tian, Kevin
2019-08-30 16:15 ` Alex Williamson
2019-09-03 6:05 ` Tian, Kevin
2019-09-04 8:28 ` Yan Zhao
[not found] ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D19D553133@SHSMSX104.ccr.corp.intel.com>
2019-08-30 8:06 ` Tian, Kevin
2019-08-30 16:32 ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2019-09-03 6:57 ` Tian, Kevin
2019-09-12 14:41 ` Alex Williamson
2019-09-12 23:00 ` Tian, Kevin
2019-09-13 15:47 ` Alex Williamson
2019-09-16 1:53 ` Tian, Kevin
[not found] ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D19D572142@SHSMSX104.ccr.corp.intel.com>
2019-09-24 2:19 ` Tian, Kevin
2019-09-24 18:03 ` Alex Williamson
2019-09-24 23:04 ` Tian, Kevin
2019-09-25 19:06 ` Alex Williamson
2019-09-26 3:07 ` Tian, Kevin
2019-09-26 21:33 ` Alex Williamson
2019-10-24 11:41 ` Tian, Kevin
2019-08-26 18:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 02/13] vfio: Add function to unmap VFIO region Kirti Wankhede
2019-08-26 18:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 03/13] vfio: Add vfio_get_object callback to VFIODeviceOps Kirti Wankhede
2019-08-26 18:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 04/13] vfio: Add save and load functions for VFIO PCI devices Kirti Wankhede
2019-08-26 18:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 05/13] vfio: Add migration region initialization and finalize function Kirti Wankhede
2019-08-26 18:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 06/13] vfio: Add VM state change handler to know state of VM Kirti Wankhede
2019-08-26 18:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 07/13] vfio: Add migration state change notifier Kirti Wankhede
2019-08-26 18:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 08/13] vfio: Register SaveVMHandlers for VFIO device Kirti Wankhede
2019-08-26 18:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 09/13] vfio: Add save state functions to SaveVMHandlers Kirti Wankhede
2019-08-26 18:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 10/13] vfio: Add load " Kirti Wankhede
2019-08-26 18:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 11/13] vfio: Add function to get dirty page list Kirti Wankhede
2019-08-26 18:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 12/13] vfio: Add vfio_listener_log_sync to mark dirty pages Kirti Wankhede
2019-08-26 18:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 13/13] vfio: Make vfio-pci device migration capable Kirti Wankhede
2019-08-26 19:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 00/13] Add migration support for VFIO device no-reply
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