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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
Cc: Denis Lunev <den@virtuozzo.com>,
	"qemu-block@nongnu.org" <qemu-block@nongnu.org>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"armbru@redhat.com" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	Denis Plotnikov <dplotnikov@virtuozzo.com>,
	Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>,
	"dgilbert@redhat.com" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] blockdev: modify blockdev-change-medium to change non-removable device
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 18:02:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191023160200.GC6177@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f29c8653-1824-eab2-558a-2f00a29924d9@virtuozzo.com>

Am 23.10.2019 um 15:56 hat Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy geschrieben:
> 22.10.2019 14:05, Max Reitz wrote:
> > On 21.10.19 08:50, Denis Plotnikov wrote:
> >>
> >> On 18.10.2019 18:02, Max Reitz wrote:
> >>> On 18.10.19 14:09, Denis Plotnikov wrote:
> >>>> The modification is useful to workaround exclusive file access restrictions,
> >>>> e.g. to implement VM migration with shared disk stored on a storage with
> >>>> the exclusive file opening model: a destination VM is started waiting for
> >>>> incomming migration with a fake image drive, and later, on the last migration
> >>>> phase, the fake image file is replaced with the real one.
> >>>>
> >>>> Signed-off-by: Denis Plotnikov <dplotnikov@virtuozzo.com>
> >>> Isn’t this what we would want to use reopen for?
> >>>
> >>> Max
> >>
> >> Could you please explain what is "use reopen"?
> > 
> > I was thinking of using (x-)blockdev-reopen to change the file that is
> > used by the format node (e.g. from a null-co node to a real file); or to
> > change the filename of the protocol node.
> > 
> > Kevin has pointed out (on IRC) that this will not allow you to change
> > the node that is directly attached to the device.  While I don’t know
> > whether that’s really necessary in this case, if it were indeed
> > necessary, I’d prefer a method to change a guest device’s @drive option
> > because that seems more natural to me.
> > 
> > In contrast, the approach taken in this patch seems not quite right to
> > me, because it overloads the whole blockdev-change-medium command with a
> > completely new and different implementation based on whether there’s a
> > removable medium or not.  If the implementation is so different (and the
> > interface is, too, because in one path you must give @medium whereas the
> > other doesn’t evaluate it at all), it should be a new command.
> > 
> > I don’t know whether we need a new command at all, though.  On the node
> > level, we have (x-)blockdev-reopen.  So assuming we need something to
> > change the link between the guest device and the block layer, I wonder
> > whether there isn’t something similar; specifically, I’d prefer
> > something to simply change the device’s @drive option.
> 
> Ok, assume we can set @drive option with help of improved qom-set.
> But how to create this new blk? blockdev-add don't have 'id' parameter anymore
> and don't create blk...

We don't need to create a new BlockBackend. You would set the drive qdev
property to a new node name and that would just internally call
blk_remove_bs() and blk_insert_bs() for the existing BlockBackend that
is owned by the device.

Kevin



      parent reply	other threads:[~2019-10-23 16:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-18 12:09 [PATCH] blockdev: modify blockdev-change-medium to change non-removable device Denis Plotnikov
2019-10-18 14:35 ` Eric Blake
2019-10-18 15:02 ` Max Reitz
2019-10-21  6:50   ` Denis Plotnikov
2019-10-22 11:05     ` Max Reitz
2019-10-22 12:53       ` Denis Plotnikov
2019-10-22 13:18         ` Max Reitz
2019-10-22 13:24           ` Denis Plotnikov
2019-10-23 13:56       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-23 14:10         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-24  9:31           ` Max Reitz
2019-10-23 16:02         ` Kevin Wolf [this message]

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