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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, piaojun@huawei.com, stefanha@redhat.com,
	marcandre.lureau@redhat.com, eguan@linux.alibaba.com,
	vgoyal@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/30] virtiofs daemon (base)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2019 13:54:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191024125410.GE2877@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191024071738-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>

* Michael S. Tsirkin (mst@redhat.com) wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 12:14:39PM +0100, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > * Daniel P. Berrangé (berrange@redhat.com) wrote:
> > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 06:59:33AM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 03:33:57PM +0100, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > > > > * no-reply@patchew.org (no-reply@patchew.org) wrote:
> > > > > > Patchew URL: https://patchew.org/QEMU/20191021105832.36574-1-dgilbert@redhat.com/
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > This series seems to have some coding style problems. See output below for
> > > > > > more information:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Subject: [PATCH 00/30] virtiofs daemon (base)
> > > > > > Type: series
> > > > > > Message-id: 20191021105832.36574-1-dgilbert@redhat.com
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > === TEST SCRIPT BEGIN ===
> > > > > > #!/bin/bash
> > > > > > git rev-parse base > /dev/null || exit 0
> > > > > > git config --local diff.renamelimit 0
> > > > > > git config --local diff.renames True
> > > > > > git config --local diff.algorithm histogram
> > > > > > ./scripts/checkpatch.pl --mailback base..
> > > > > 
> > > > > Expecting checkpatch to be broken here; most of the files
> > > > > follow FUSE's formatting.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Dave
> > > > 
> > > > I wonder what do others think about this.
> > > > One problem with such inconsistencies is that people tend to copy code
> > > > around, which tends to result in a mess.
> > > 
> > > IIUC, most of this code is simpy copied as-is from the fuse or linux
> > > git repos. I'm wondering what the intention is for it long term ?
> > > 
> > > For header files, I would have expected us to be able to compile against
> > > the -devel package provided by the kernel or fuse packages. I can
> > > understand if we want to import the headers if the VSOCK additions to
> > > them are not yet widely available in distros though. If this is the case
> > > we should put a time limit on how long we'd keep these copied headers
> > > around for before dropping them. It would be fine to violate QEMU coding
> > > style in this case as its not code QEMU would "maintain" long term - just
> > > a read-only import.
> > 
> > The headers are really two types;  one are external definitions, the
> > other are internal parts of libfuse.  I'd expect to keep the internal
> > parts long term; teh external parts hmm; where would we pull them in
> > externally from?
> > 
> > > The source files though, we appear to then be modifying locally, which
> > > suggests they'll live in our repo forever. In this case I'd expect to
> > > have compliance with QEMU coding standards.
> > 
> > OK.
> > 
> > > I'm surprised we need to copy so much in from fuse though. Is there a
> > > case to be made for fuse to provide a library of APIs for people who
> > > are building fuse daemons to link against, instead of copy & fork ?
> > 
> > libfuse *is* such a library; but it preserves ABI compliance; it's
> > intention is to be used to build filesystem implementations on top of -
> > and that's got a fairly good separation;  however changing the fuse
> > transport, and security models is much more invasive than it was
> > designed for.
> > 
> > Dave
> 
> 
> I guess you did try to propose adding the functionality to the libfuse
> maintainer and got rejected? If not it's worth asking.

I looked at it; we started off thinking we'd merge much of it up there -
but there's at least two problems:

  a) Our libvhost-user isn't a separable library either - so we'd need
to copy it into libfuse which is just as big a problem.
  b) It's not additional interfaces, it's changes to existing APIs that
break A*B*I compatibility that are very hard to avoid when you're
changing the transport.

Also, we're not just changing the transport - if you look at the
security patchset we're inverting the security model and there's a bunch
of threading changes that you haven't got yet.

Dave

> 
> 
> > > Regards,
> > > Daniel
> > > -- 
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> > --
> > Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK



  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-24 13:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-21 10:58 [PATCH 00/30] virtiofs daemon (base) Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-10-21 10:58 ` [PATCH 01/30] virtiofsd: Pull in upstream headers Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-10-21 10:58 ` [PATCH 02/30] virtiofsd: Pull in kernel's fuse.h Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-10-24 11:10   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-10-24 14:28     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-10-24 11:13   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-10-24 15:49     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-10-21 10:58 ` [PATCH 03/30] virtiofsd: Add auxiliary .c's Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-10-21 10:58 ` [PATCH 04/30] virtiofsd: Add fuse_lowlevel.c Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-10-24 11:11   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-10-24 14:31     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-10-21 10:58 ` [PATCH 05/30] virtiofsd: Add passthrough_ll Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-10-21 10:58 ` [PATCH 06/30] virtiofsd: Trim down imported files Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-10-21 10:58 ` [PATCH 07/30] virtiofsd: remove mountpoint dummy argument Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-10-21 10:58 ` [PATCH 08/30] virtiofsd: remove unused notify reply support Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-10-21 10:58 ` [PATCH 09/30] virtiofsd: Fix fuse_daemonize ignored return values Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-10-21 10:58 ` [PATCH 10/30] virtiofsd: Fix common header and define for QEMU builds Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-10-21 10:58 ` [PATCH 11/30] virtiofsd: fuse: Make iov_length usable outside fuse_lowlevel.c Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-10-21 14:47   ` Marc-André Lureau
2019-10-22 10:01     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-10-21 10:58 ` [PATCH 12/30] virtiofsd: Make fsync work even if only inode is passed in Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-10-21 10:58 ` [PATCH 13/30] virtiofsd: Add options for virtio Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-10-21 10:58 ` [PATCH 14/30] virtiofsd: add -o source=PATH to help output Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-10-21 10:58 ` [PATCH 15/30] virtiofsd: Open vhost connection instead of mounting Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-10-21 10:58 ` [PATCH 16/30] virtiofsd: Start wiring up vhost-user Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-10-21 10:58 ` [PATCH 17/30] virtiofsd: Add main virtio loop Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-10-21 14:51   ` Marc-André Lureau
2019-10-22 11:07     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-11-14 14:13       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-21 10:58 ` [PATCH 18/30] virtiofsd: get/set features callbacks Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-10-21 10:58 ` [PATCH 19/30] virtiofsd: Start queue threads Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-10-21 10:58 ` [PATCH 20/30] virtiofsd: Poll kick_fd for queue Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-10-21 10:58 ` [PATCH 21/30] virtiofsd: Start reading commands from queue Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-10-21 14:57   ` Marc-André Lureau
2019-10-22 10:28     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-10-21 10:58 ` [PATCH 22/30] virtiofsd: Send replies to messages Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-10-21 10:58 ` [PATCH 23/30] virtiofsd: Keep track of replies Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-10-21 10:58 ` [PATCH 24/30] virtiofsd: Add Makefile wiring for virtiofsd contrib Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-10-21 10:58 ` [PATCH 25/30] virtiofsd: Fast path for virtio read Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-10-21 10:58 ` [PATCH 26/30] virtiofsd: add --fd=FDNUM fd passing option Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-10-21 10:58 ` [PATCH 27/30] virtiofsd: make -f (foreground) the default Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-10-21 10:58 ` [PATCH 28/30] virtiofsd: add vhost-user.json file Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-10-21 10:58 ` [PATCH 29/30] virtiofsd: add --print-capabilities option Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-10-21 10:58 ` [PATCH 30/30] virtiofs: Add maintainers entry Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
     [not found] ` <157166664425.24734.3489596262271351160@37313f22b938>
2019-10-21 14:33   ` [PATCH 00/30] virtiofs daemon (base) Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-10-24 10:59     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-10-24 11:02       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-10-24 11:07       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-10-24 11:14         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-10-24 11:19           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-10-24 12:54             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2019-10-24 11:25           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-10-24 13:36             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-10-24 11:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-10-24 16:19   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-10-27 13:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-10-28 13:24   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-10-29 22:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-10-30 10:47   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-10-31  0:34     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-10-31 13:20       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert

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