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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Cc: "liang yan" <lyan@suse.com>,
	Jailhouse <jailhouse-dev@googlegroups.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Claudio Fontana" <claudio.fontana@gmail.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"Hannes Reinecke" <hare@suse.de>,
	"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/3] docs/specs: Add specification of ivshmem device revision 2
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 11:14:49 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191111111203-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <129c527c-1e61-8c0c-3ca1-fe93e26c8bd2@siemens.com>

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 04:42:52PM +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 11.11.19 16:27, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 10:08:20AM -0500, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 02:59:07PM +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> > > > On 11.11.19 14:45, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 01:57:11PM +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> > > > > > +| Offset | Register               | Content                                              |
> > > > > > +|-------:|:-----------------------|:-----------------------------------------------------|
> > > > > > +|    00h | Vendor ID              | 1AF4h                                                |
> > > > > > +|    02h | Device ID              | 1110h                                                |
> > > > > 
> > > > > Given it's a virtio vendor ID, please reserve a device ID
> > > > > with the virtio TC.
> > > > 
> > > > Yeah, QEMU's IVSHMEM was always using that. I'm happy to make this finally
> > > > official.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > And I guess we will just mark it reserved or something right?
> > > Since at least IVSHMEM 1 isn't a virtio device.
> > > And will you be reusing same ID for IVSHMEM 2 or a new one?
> > 
> > 1110h isn't under either of the virtio PCI device ID allowed ranges
> > according to the spec:
> > 
> >    "Any PCI device with PCI Vendor ID 0x1AF4, and PCI Device
> >     ID 0x1000 through 0x107F inclusive is a virtio device.
> >     ...
> >     Additionally, devices MAY utilize a Transitional PCI Device
> >     ID range, 0x1000 to 0x103F depending on the device type. "
> > 
> > So there's no need to reserve 0x1110h from the virtio spec POV.
> 
> Indeed.
> 
> > 
> > I have, however, ensured it is assigned to ivshmem from POV of
> > Red Hat's own internal tracking of allocated device IDs, under
> > its vendor ID.
> > 
> > If ivshmem 2 is now a virtio device, then it is a good thing that
> > it will get a new/different PCI device ID, to show that it is not
> > compatible with the old device impl.
> 
> At this stage, it is just a PCI device that may be used in combination with
> virtio (stacked on top), but it is not designed like a normal virtio (PCI)
> device. That's because it lacks many properties of regular virtio devices,
> like queues.
> 
> So, if such a device could be come part of the virtio spec, it would be
> separate from the rest, and having an ID from the regular range would likely
> not be helpful in this regard.
> 
> Jan

I agree it needs a separate ID not from the regular range.
It's a distinct transport.
Maybe even a distinct vendor ID - we could easily get another one
if needed.

> -- 
> Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT RDA IOT SES-DE
> Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux



  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-11 16:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-11 12:57 [RFC][PATCH 0/3] IVSHMEM version 2 device for QEMU Jan Kiszka
2019-11-11 12:57 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/3] hw/misc: Add implementation of ivshmem revision 2 device Jan Kiszka
2019-11-11 12:57 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/3] docs/specs: Add specification of ivshmem device revision 2 Jan Kiszka
2019-11-11 13:45   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-11-11 13:59     ` Jan Kiszka
2019-11-11 15:08       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-11-11 15:27         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-11-11 15:42           ` Jan Kiszka
2019-11-11 16:14             ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2019-11-11 16:25               ` Jan Kiszka
2019-11-11 16:11           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-11-11 16:38             ` Jan Kiszka
2019-11-12  8:04               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-11-20 18:15                 ` Jan Kiszka
2019-12-05 11:14   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-12-05 21:29     ` Jan Kiszka
2019-12-06 10:08       ` Markus Armbruster
2019-11-11 12:57 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/3] contrib: Add server for ivshmem " Jan Kiszka
2019-11-12  0:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/3] IVSHMEM version 2 device for QEMU no-reply
2019-11-27 15:28 ` Liang Yan
2019-11-27 17:19   ` Jan Kiszka
2019-12-02  6:16     ` Jan Kiszka
     [not found]       ` <877b0cd9-d1c5-00c9-c4b6-567c67740962@suse.com>
2019-12-03  7:14         ` Jan Kiszka

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