From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Cc: Laurent Vivier <lvivier@redhat.com>,
Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/10] migration: Increase default number of multifd channels to 16
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 17:12:33 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200103171233.GV2753983@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200103170114.GO3804@work-vm>
On Fri, Jan 03, 2020 at 05:01:14PM +0000, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> * Daniel P. Berrangé (berrange@redhat.com) wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 03:01:10AM +0100, Juan Quintela wrote:
> > > We can scale much better with 16, so we can scale to higher numbers.
> >
> > What was the test scenario showing such scaling ?
> >
> > In the real world I'm sceptical that virt hosts will have
> > 16 otherwise idle CPU cores available that are permissible
> > to use for migration, or indeed whether they'll have network
> > bandwidth available to allow 16 cores to saturate the link.
>
> With TLS or compression, the network bandwidth could easily be there.
Yes, but this constant is setting a default that applies regardless of
whether TLS / compression is enabled and/or whether CPU cores are idle.
IOW, there can be cases where using 16 threads will be a perf win, I'm
just questioning the suitability as a global default out of the box.
I feel like what's really lacking with migration is documentation
around the usefulness of the very many parameters, and the various
interesting combinations & tradeoffs around enabling them. So instead
of changing the default threads, can we focusing on improving
documentation so that mgmt apps have good information on which to
make the decision about whether & when to use 2 or 16 or $NNN migration
threads.
Regards,
Daniel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-01-03 17:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-12-18 2:01 [PATCH v2 00/10] Multifd Migration Compression Juan Quintela
2019-12-18 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] migration: Increase default number of multifd channels to 16 Juan Quintela
2020-01-03 16:51 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-01-03 16:58 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-03 17:01 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-01-03 17:12 ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2020-01-03 17:32 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-01-03 18:25 ` Juan Quintela
2020-01-07 12:49 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-07 13:32 ` Juan Quintela
2020-01-07 13:42 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-03 17:49 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-12-18 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] migration-test: Add migration multifd test Juan Quintela
2019-12-18 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] migration-test: introduce functions to handle string parameters Juan Quintela
2020-01-03 16:57 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-12-18 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] migration: Make multifd_save_setup() get an Error parameter Juan Quintela
2020-01-03 16:46 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-01-07 12:35 ` Juan Quintela
2019-12-18 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] migration: Make multifd_load_setup() " Juan Quintela
2020-01-03 17:22 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-01-07 13:00 ` Juan Quintela
2019-12-18 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] migration: Add multifd-compress parameter Juan Quintela
2019-12-19 7:41 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-01-03 17:57 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-01-07 13:03 ` Juan Quintela
2019-12-18 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] migration: Make no compression operations into its own structure Juan Quintela
2020-01-03 18:20 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-01-07 13:08 ` Juan Quintela
2019-12-18 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] migration: Add zlib compression multifd support Juan Quintela
2019-12-18 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] configure: Enable test and libs for zstd Juan Quintela
2019-12-18 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] migration: Add zstd compression multifd support Juan Quintela
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