From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Kashyap Chamarthy <kchamart@redhat.com>
Cc: pbonzini@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, ehabkost@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] docs: qemu-cpu-models: Document '-noTSX' variants and 'mds-no'
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 16:45:08 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200121164508.GB635404@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200116173639.28524-1-kchamart@redhat.com>
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 06:36:38PM +0100, Kashyap Chamarthy wrote:
> - Add the -noTSX variants for CascadeLake and SkyLake.
>
> - Add a note aboute the 'mds-no' MSR. Two confusing things about this:
>
> (1) The 'mds-no' will _not_ show up in the guest's /proc/cpuinfo.
> Rather it is used to fill in the guest's sysfs:
>
> sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/mds:Not affected
>
> Paolo confirmed on IRC as such.
>
> (2) There are _three_ variants[+] of CascadeLake CPUs, with different
> stepping levels: 5, 6, and 7. To quite wikichip.org[*]:
>
> "note that while steppings 6 & 7 are fully mitigated, earlier
> stepping 5 is not protected against MSBDS, MLPDS, nor MDSUM"
>
> The above is also indicated in the Intel's manual itself[+], as
> indicated by "No" under the three columns of MFBDS, MSBDS, and
> MLPDS.
>
> [+] https://software.intel.com/security-software-guidance/insights/processors-affected-microarchitectural-data-sampling
> [*] https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/microarchitectures/cascade_lake#Key_changes_from_Skylake
>
> Signed-off-by: Kashyap Chamarthy <kchamart@redhat.com>
> ---
> TODO:
> - I think I also need to add a note about 'tsx-ctrl' bit. Here too,
> same question as above -- does it show up in /proc/cpuinfo/?
> ---
> docs/qemu-cpu-models.texi | 37 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
> 1 file changed, 36 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/docs/qemu-cpu-models.texi b/docs/qemu-cpu-models.texi
> index f88a1def0d042cc25213259172a648f0a9c514dc..e6c4058e764a81988d6bc97457c668cb0ad2ea37 100644
> --- a/docs/qemu-cpu-models.texi
> +++ b/docs/qemu-cpu-models.texi
> @@ -72,14 +72,30 @@ between machines, if live migration compatibility is required, use the newest
> CPU model that is compatible across all desired hosts.
>
> @table @option
> +
> +@item @code{Cascadelake-Server-noTSX}
Also needs
@item @code{Cascadelake-Server}
> +
> +Intell Xeon Processor (Cascade Lake, 2019-2020), with "stepping" levels
s/Intell/Intel/
s/-2020// as we only need the initial year of introduction IMHO.
> +6 or 7 only. (The Cascade Lake Xeon processor with @b{stepping 5 is
> +vulnerable to MDS variants}; refer below.)
> +
> +@code{/proc/cpuinfo}.
> +
> +The @code{mds-no} bit does not show up under @code{/proc/cpuinfo}.
> +Rather it shows up under the @code{sysfs}, as
> +@code{/sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/mds:Not affected}
We already talk about this later on we I thin kwe can trim the
/proc/cpinfo bit
> @item @code{Skylake-Server}
> @item @code{Skylake-Server-IBRS}
> +@item @code{Skylake-Server-noTSX-IBRS}
>
> Intel Xeon Processor (Skylake, 2016)
>
>
> @item @code{Skylake-Client}
> @item @code{Skylake-Client-IBRS}
> +@item @code{Skylake-Client-noTSX-IBRS}
>
> Intel Core Processor (Skylake, 2015)
>
> @@ -214,9 +230,28 @@ Must be explicitly turned on for all Intel CPU models.
>
> Requires the host CPU microcode to support this feature before it
> can be used for guest CPUs.
> +
> +@item @code{mds-no}
> +
> +This is an MSR (Model-Specific Register) used by QEMU to indicate that
> +the host is @i{not} vulnerable to any of the MDS variants ([MFBDS]
> +CVE-2018-12130, [MLPDS] CVE-2018-12127, [MSBDS] CVE-2018-12126).
> +
> +Note that there are @i{three} versions of Intel's Cascade Lake
> +processor, as distinguished by their "stepping" levels 5, 6, and 7. The
> +CPU with stepping "5" is @b{vulnerable to MDS variants}; and the CPUs
> +with steppings "6" and "7" are @b{not vulnerable} to the above mentioned
> +MDS variants. The processor "stepping" is reported in
> +@code{/proc/cpuinfo}.
> +
> +Confusingly, the @code{mds-no} bit does not show up under
> +@code{/proc/cpuinfo} inside the guest. Rather the kernel uses it to
> +fill in the @code{sysfs}, as
> +@code{/sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/mds: Not affected},
> +assuming the processor is running with stepping 6 or 7.
I think we can simplify this a little - we don't need to talk
about CPU steppings - the user simply needs to know whether the
sysfs file reports vulnerable or not.
So perhaps this text:
Recommended to inform the guest OS that the host is @i{not]
vulnerable to any of the MDS variants ([MFBDS]
CVE-2018-12130, [MLPDS] CVE-2018-12127, [MSBDS] CVE-2018-12126).
This is a MSR feature rather than a CPUID feature, so will not
appear in the Linux @code{/proc/cpuinfo} in the host or guest.
It should only be enabled for VMs if the host reports
@code{Not affected} in the
@code{/sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/mds} file.
Regards,
Daniel
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2020-01-16 17:36 [PATCH] docs: qemu-cpu-models: Document '-noTSX' variants and 'mds-no' Kashyap Chamarthy
2020-01-17 13:22 ` Kashyap Chamarthy
2020-01-21 16:45 ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2020-01-21 17:59 ` Kashyap Chamarthy
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