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From: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: pasic@linux.ibm.com, pbonzini@redhat.com, philmd@redhat.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, ehabkost@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 03/80] machine: alias -mem-path and -mem-prealloc into memory-foo backend
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2020 11:40:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200203114042.71ef1575@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200203043724-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>

On Mon, 3 Feb 2020 04:42:23 -0500
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 03, 2020 at 10:27:20AM +0100, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> > On Mon, 3 Feb 2020 04:04:15 -0500
> > "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> >   
> > > On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 04:08:33PM +0100, Igor Mammedov wrote:  
> > > > Allow machine to opt in for hostmem backend based initial RAM
> > > > even if user uses old -mem-path/prealloc options by providing
> > > >   MachineClass::default_ram_id
> > > > Follow up patches will incrementally convert machines to new API,
> > > > by dropping memory_region_allocate_system_memory() and setting
> > > > default_ram_id that board used to use before conversion to keep
> > > > migration stream the same.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>    
> > > 
> > > What about non-versioned machines though?
> > > Why do these need to set default_ram_id?
> > > Seems redundant as they don't need to support cross-version
> > > migration ...  
> > 
> > They need at least some id for migration to work,
> > so this series reuses id that they are using today.  
> 
> However for non versioned machines (and that's the majority of them), we could supply the
> id in the generic code. Basically
> 	if (!default_ram_id)
> 		default_ram_id = "ram";
there was cleanup patch like this in v2, which I dropped for now
as it needs more not directly related this refactoring.
See my reply to: "[PATCH v4 43/80] x86/pc: use memdev for RAM"
I dropped it since if above were done, it would trigger a bunch
of changes /to properly handle case/ to boards that do not care
about -m and manage RAM in its own way and not related to
removing memory_region_allocate_system_memory().

I'm not saying it shouldn't be done but rather,
it should be done on top to take in account cases for fixed size
boards and for boards that do not use -m at all and just create
RAM memory region on its own.

> > Basically default_ram_id is a means to optin into hostmem
> > based allocation with (-m).  
> 
> It's just a cryptic way to do it.
name came up from current meaning of the value stored there,
namely boards use value as the default memory region id.
But optin behavior is not clear from that, How about adding
following to doc comment to make intent explicit:

diff --git a/include/hw/boards.h b/include/hw/boards.h
index 56a4dd9..142b86d 100644
--- a/include/hw/boards.h
+++ b/include/hw/boards.h
@@ -147,6 +147,9 @@ typedef struct {
  *    Specifies inital RAM MemoryRegion name to be used for default backend
  *    creation if user explicitly hasn't specified backend with "memory-backend"
  *    property.
+ *    It also will be used as a way to optin into "-m" option support.
+ *    If it's not set by board, '-m' will be ignored and generic code will
+ *    not create default RAM MemoryRegion.
  */


[...]


> > "
> > v3:
> > [...]
> >   - drop "[PATCH v2 76/86] post conversion default_ram_id cleanup"
> >     so that default memory-backedend won't be created for boards that do not care
> >     about -m. Which makes -m optin feature. We should decide  what do in  case
> >     board doesn't use -m (but that's out of scope of this series)
> > [...]
> > "
> >   
> > >   
> > > > -- 
> > > > 2.7.4
> > > > 
> > > >     
> > >   
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-03 10:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-31 15:08 [PATCH v4 00/80] refactor main RAM allocation to use hostmem backend Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v4 01/80] numa: remove deprecated -mem-path fallback to anonymous RAM Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v4 02/80] machine: introduce memory-backend property Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v4 03/80] machine: alias -mem-path and -mem-prealloc into memory-foo backend Igor Mammedov
2020-02-03  9:04   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-03  9:27     ` Igor Mammedov
2020-02-03  9:42       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-03 10:40         ` Igor Mammedov [this message]
2020-01-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v4 04/80] machine: introduce convenience MachineState::ram Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v4 05/80] initialize MachineState::ram in NUMA case Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v4 06/80] vl.c: move -m parsing after memory backends has been processed Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v4 07/80] vl.c: ensure that ram_size matches size of machine.memory-backend Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v4 08/80] alpha/dp264: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v4 09/80] arm/aspeed: actually check RAM size Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v4 10/80] arm/aspeed: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v4 11/80] arm/collie: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v4 12/80] arm/cubieboard: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v4 13/80] arm/digic_boards: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v4 14/80] arm/highbank: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v4 15/80] arm/imx25_pdk: drop RAM size fixup Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v4 16/80] arm/imx25_pdk: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v4 17/80] arm/integratorcp: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v4 18/80] arm/kzm: drop RAM size fixup Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v4 19/80] arm/kzm: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v4 20/80] arm/mcimx6ul-evk: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v4 21/80] arm/mcimx7d-sabre: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v4 22/80] arm/mps2-tz: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v4 23/80] arm/mps2: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v4 24/80] arm/musicpal: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v4 25/80] arm/nseries: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v4 26/80] arm/omap_sx1: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v4 27/80] arm/palm: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v4 28/80] arm/raspi: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v4 29/80] arm/sabrelite: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 30/80] arm/sbsa-ref: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 31/80] arm/versatilepb: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 32/80] arm/vexpress: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 33/80] arm/virt: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 34/80] arm/xilinx_zynq: drop RAM size fixup Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 35/80] arm/xilinx_zynq: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 36/80] arm/xlnx-versal-virt: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 37/80] arm/xlnx-zcu102: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 38/80] s390x/s390-virtio-ccw: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-05 20:11   ` Halil Pasic
2020-02-06 13:15     ` Igor Mammedov
2020-02-10 19:33       ` Halil Pasic
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 39/80] null-machine: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 40/80] cris/axis_dev88: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 41/80] hppa: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 42/80] x86/microvm: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-03  8:58   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 43/80] x86/pc: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-03  9:07   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-03  9:45     ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 44/80] lm32/lm32_boards: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 45/80] lm32/milkymist: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 46/80] m68k/an5206: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 47/80] m68k/q800: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 48/80] m68k/mcf5208: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 49/80] m68k/next-cube: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 50/80] mips/boston: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 51/80] mips/mips_fulong2e: drop RAM size fixup Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 52/80] mips/mips_fulong2e: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 53/80] mips/mips_jazz: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-09 16:41   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-02-10 15:06     ` [PATCH v5 81/80] mips/mips_jazz: add max ram size check Igor Mammedov
2020-02-10 17:04       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 54/80] mips/mips_malta: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 55/80] mips/mips_mipssim: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 56/80] mips/mips_r4k: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 57/80] ppc/e500: drop RAM size fixup Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 58/80] ppc/e500: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 59/80] ppc/mac_newworld: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 60/80] ppc/mac_oldworld: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 61/80] ppc/pnv: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 62/80] ppc/ppc405_boards: add RAM size checks Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 63/80] ppc/ppc405_boards: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 64/80] ppc/{ppc440_bamboo, sam460ex}: drop RAM size fixup Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 65/80] ppc/{ppc440_bamboo, sam460ex}: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 66/80] ppc/prep: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 67/80] ppc/spapr: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 68/80] ppc/virtex_ml507: remove unused arguments Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 69/80] ppc/virtex_ml507: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 70/80] sparc/leon3: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 71/80] sparc/sun4m: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 72/80] sparc/niagara: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 73/80] remove no longer used memory_region_allocate_system_memory() Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 74/80] exec: cleanup qemu_minrampagesize()/qemu_maxrampagesize() Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 75/80] exec: drop bogus mem_path from qemu_ram_alloc_from_fd() Igor Mammedov
2020-02-07 14:42   ` Marc-André Lureau
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 76/80] make mem_path local variable Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 77/80] hostmem: introduce "prealloc-threads" property Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 78/80] hostmem: fix strict bind policy Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 79/80] tests/numa-test: make top level args dynamic and g_autofree(cli) cleanups Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 15:09 ` [PATCH v4 80/80] tests:numa-test: use explicit memdev to specify node RAM Igor Mammedov
2020-01-31 16:16 ` [PATCH v4 00/80] refactor main RAM allocation to use hostmem backend no-reply
2020-01-31 16:28 ` no-reply
2020-02-03  9:49   ` Igor Mammedov
2020-02-04 15:08 ` Igor Mammedov
2020-02-04 15:39   ` Igor Mammedov
2020-02-04 22:05     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-02-05 13:20       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé

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