From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8814C3B1BF for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 22:56:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7EC5620857 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 22:56:45 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="B1yefkV9" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 7EC5620857 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=kernel.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Received: from localhost ([::1]:37684 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j3SqC-0001Hm-Mf for qemu-devel@archiver.kernel.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 17:56:44 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54614) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j3Soy-0000By-4s for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 17:55:29 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j3Sow-00079r-Kx for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 17:55:27 -0500 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:51062) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j3Sow-00078V-Ap; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 17:55:26 -0500 Received: from jamesdev (jahogan.plus.com [212.159.75.221]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7FB03206E2; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 22:55:23 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=default; t=1581893725; bh=3NggaOmvOXw2MqkIt726jfs9MLPEIRM1dKQP3jT9fSM=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=B1yefkV9poGFm8rJsCamg3txnV3Qkr2nVEwhC9Ux80NGYlzfP2EVcHymL/6fUDep1 nbw7wKm90tR2NfWyicx4PJm90cOngqJr26ZayPgqHsPMdkppwRamRVrBVvbAgrycYs MyLku/prkJdKnmMUyN7nzYqJH5Jj+jY7mrdEXCoI= Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 22:55:20 +0000 From: James Hogan To: Aleksandar Markovic Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Orphan MIPS KVM CPUs Message-ID: <20200216225520.GB145683@jamesdev> References: <20191221155306.49221-1-jhogan@kernel.org> <20200216065717.GA145683@jamesdev> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 198.145.29.99 X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Philippe =?utf-8?Q?Mathieu-Daud=C3=A9?= , Paul Burton , QEMU Trivial , "qemu-devel@nongnu.org Developers" , Aleksandar Markovic , Paolo Bonzini , Aleksandar Rikalo , Aurelien Jarno Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: "Qemu-devel" On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 05:33:44PM +0100, Aleksandar Markovic wrote: > OK, I will add the patch in the next MIPS queue, since I think its > significance is more than trivial. It will be sent no later than two weeks > from now. Thanks Aleksandar. > I just wanted the patch to be in the same queue when we will > provide replacement. But, honestly, if the factual state lasted that long, > I don't see the reason for such sudden hurry, do you? Yes. My main reasons for not wanting this dragged out any longer are: 1) Personally, I just want to let go of it now, and that's slightly harder to do when I'm still keeping an eye on whether this patch is merged yet, or worse, waiting for Wave to act. 2) In principle it feels wrong to delay a maintainer's name being removed at their own request (even if it came late!) for an indeterminate amount of time. This patch simply shouldn't be blocked waiting for Wave to make a decision I've been waiting to see if it would make for too long already. 3) Maybe publicly recognising the orphaned state might motivate Wave or others to step up and take a lead with further development. > Of course I respect James' decision, although I am trully sorry about it. > My only slight objection is that James should have sent this patch sooner, > rather than just leave an impression that there is a maintainer, while in > fact there wasn't. What did you wait? LOL, well I doubt MIPS (as a company) was under any illusion since they pulled the trigger :-P Seriously though, I intended to keep an eye on things in my own time (both on kernel & QEMU side) and just be ready to answer questions and hand over the reigns if/when somebody from Wave got up to speed. I was probably also wary of making MIPS look bad for closing their UK operation (again) and "orphaning" my code (that I was probably too emotionally invested in, LOL!). In practice Paul took care of the MIPS arch stuff and there was virtually no activity on the MIPS KVM front from Wave so real life mostly pushed it off my radar. I did discuss orphaning it with Paul last year but there was mention of Wave folk getting up to speed with it so I held off for a bit longer. Anyway FWIW I'm sorry for any confusion caused by my hesitation. > But, never mind, I understand your > hesitation. The best outcome would be that James remained in that role (I > do remember him as an excellent, thorough engineer, that is approachable > and very helpful to others), but what can we do now. I wish we work > together in future, who knows? Thanks, James, for taking care of KVM for > MIPS for number of years! Thanks, my pleasure. Cheers James