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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-block@nongnu.org,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Max Reitz" <mreitz@redhat.com>,
	armbru@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 06/10] iotests: limit line length to 79 chars
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2020 12:55:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200305115548.GA5363@linux.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c57333a3-baf3-cc00-7f99-6fce2de91a7f@redhat.com>

Am 05.03.2020 um 00:14 hat John Snow geschrieben:
> 
> 
> On 3/4/20 4:58 PM, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:

Adding back the context:

> -        sys.stderr.write('qemu-img received signal %i: %s\n' % (-exitcode, ' '.join(qemu_img_args + list(args))))
> +        sys.stderr.write('qemu-img received signal %i: %s\n' % (
> +            -exitcode, ' '.join(qemu_img_args + list(args))))

> > Do we want to indent Python like C and align argument below opening
> > parenthesis? Except when using sys.stderr.write() you seem to do it.
> 
> This isn't an argument to write, it's an argument to the format string,
> so I will say "no."

The argument to write() is an expression. This expression contains the %
operator with both of its operands. It's still fully within the
parentheses of write(), so I think Philippe's question is valid.

> For *where* I've placed the line break, this is the correct indentation.
> emacs's python mode will settle on this indent, too.
> 
> https://python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/#indentation

The PEP-8 examples are not nested, so it's not completely clear. I
wonder if hanging indents wouldn't actually mean the following because
if you line wrap an argument list (which contains the whole %
expression), you're supposed to have nothing else on the line of the
opening parenthesis:

    sys.stderr.write(
        'qemu-img received signal %i: %s\n'
        % (-exitcode, ' '.join(qemu_img_args + list(args))))

But anyway, I think the question is more whether we want to use hanging
indents at all (or at least if we want to use it even in cases where the
opening parenthesis isn't already at like 70 characters) when we're
avoiding it in our C coding style.

There's no technical answer to this, it's a question of our preferences.

> (If anyone quotes Guido's belittling comment in this email, I will
> become cross.)
> 
> 
> But there are other places to put the line break. This is also
> technically valid:
> 
> sys.stderr.write('qemu-img received signal %i: %s\n'
>                  % (-exitcode, ' '.join(qemu_img_args + list(args))))
> 
> And so is this:
> 
>     sys.stderr.write('qemu-img received signal %i: %s\n' %
>                      (-exitcode, ' '.join(qemu_img_args + list(args))))

PEP-8 suggests the former, but allows both styles:

https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/#should-a-line-break-before-or-after-a-binary-operator

> (And so would be any other number of rewrites to use format codes,
> f-strings, or temporary variables to otherwise reduce the length of the
> line.)
> 
> I will reluctantly admit that wrapping to 79 columns is useful in some
> contexts. The beauty of line continuations is something I have little
> desire to litigate, though.
> 
> If there's some consensus on the true and beautiful way to do it, I will
> oblige -- but the thought of spinning more iterations until we find a
> color swatch we like is an unpleasant one.

I'll accept any colour for the bikeshed, as long as it's green. ;-)

Kevin



  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-05 11:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-04 21:38 [PATCH v7 00/10] iotests: use python logging John Snow
2020-03-04 21:38 ` [PATCH v7 01/10] iotests: do a light delinting John Snow
2020-03-04 21:45   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-03-04 22:43     ` John Snow
2020-03-04 21:38 ` [PATCH v7 02/10] iotests: don't use 'format' for drive_add John Snow
2020-03-04 21:38 ` [PATCH v7 03/10] iotests: ignore import warnings from pylint John Snow
2020-03-04 21:38 ` [PATCH v7 04/10] iotests: replace mutable list default args John Snow
2020-03-04 21:59   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-03-04 21:38 ` [PATCH v7 05/10] iotests: add pylintrc file John Snow
2020-03-04 21:38 ` [PATCH v7 06/10] iotests: limit line length to 79 chars John Snow
2020-03-04 21:58   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-03-04 23:14     ` John Snow
2020-03-05 11:55       ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2020-03-05 18:25         ` John Snow
2020-03-06 10:14           ` Kevin Wolf
2020-03-06 18:34             ` John Snow
2020-03-07  6:36             ` Markus Armbruster
2020-03-04 21:38 ` [PATCH v7 07/10] iotests: add script_initialize John Snow
2020-03-04 21:38 ` [PATCH v7 08/10] iotest 258: use script_main John Snow
2020-03-04 21:38 ` [PATCH v7 09/10] iotests: Mark verify functions as private John Snow
2020-03-04 21:47   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-03-04 21:38 ` [PATCH v7 10/10] iotests: use python logging for iotests.log() John Snow

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