From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
"Singh, Brijesh" <brijesh.singh@amd.com>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
qemu-stable@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2] vhost: correctly turn on VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 10:13:16 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200317141316.GA199571@xz-x1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <158fbd3b-1285-e18d-b535-a1e7a9802f1f@redhat.com>
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 11:04:26AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>
> On 2020/3/17 上午2:14, Peter Xu wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 01:19:54PM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 12:31:22PM -0400, Peter Xu wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 11:29:59AM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 01:44:46PM +0100, Halil Pasic wrote:
> > > > > > [..]
> > > > > > > > CCing Tom. @Tom does vhost-vsock work for you with SEV and current qemu?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Also, one can specify iommu_platform=on on a device that ain't a part of
> > > > > > > > a secure-capable VM, just for the fun of it. And that breaks
> > > > > > > > vhost-vsock. Or is setting iommu_platform=on only valid if
> > > > > > > > qemu-system-s390x is protected virtualization capable?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > BTW, I don't have a strong opinion on the fixes tag. We currently do not
> > > > > > > > recommend setting iommu_platform, and thus I don't think we care too
> > > > > > > > much about past qemus having problems with it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > Halil
> > > > > > > Let's just say if we do have a Fixes: tag we want to set it correctly to
> > > > > > > the commit that needs this fix.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > I finally did some digging regarding the performance degradation. For
> > > > > > s390x the performance degradation on vhost-net was introduced by commit
> > > > > > 076a93d797 ("exec: simplify address_space_get_iotlb_entry"). Before
> > > > > > IOMMUTLBEntry.addr_mask used to be based on plen, which in turn was
> > > > > > calculated as the rest of the memory regions size (from address), and
> > > > > > covered most of the guest address space. That is we didn't have a whole
> > > > > > lot of IOTLB API overhead.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With commit 076a93d797 I see IOMMUTLBEntry.addr_mask == 0xfff which comes
> > > > > > as ~TARGET_PAGE_MASK from flatview_do_translate(). To have things working
> > > > > > properly I applied 75e5b70e6, b021d1c044, and d542800d1e on the level of
> > > > > > 076a93d797 and 076a93d797~1.
> > > > > Peter, what's your take on this one?
> > > > Commit 076a93d797 was one of the patchset where we want to provide
> > > > sensible IOTLB entries and also that should start to work with huge
> > > > pages.
> > > So the issue bundamentally is that it
> > > never produces entries larger than page size.
> > >
> > > Wasteful even just with huge pages, all the more
> > > so which passthrough which could have giga-byte
> > > entries.
> > >
> > > Want to try fixing that?
> > Yes we can fix that, but I'm still not sure whether changing the
> > interface of address_space_get_iotlb_entry() to cover adhoc regions is
> > a good idea, because I think it's still a memory core API and imho it
> > would still be good to have IOTLBs returned to be what the hardware
> > will be using (always page aligned IOTLBs). Also it would still be
> > not ideal because vhost backend will still need to send the MISSING
> > messages and block for each of the continuous guest memory ranges
> > registered, so there will still be misterious delay. Not to say
> > logically all the caches can be invalidated too so in that sense I
> > think it's as hacky as the vhost speedup patch mentioned below..
> >
> > Ideally I think vhost should be able to know when PT is enabled or
> > disabled for the device, so the vhost backend (kernel or userspace)
> > should be able to directly use GPA for DMA. That might need some new
> > vhost interface.
>
>
> Yes but I think we don't need another API since we can send GPA->HVA mapping
> via device IOTLB API when we find there's no DMA translation at all (either
> PT or no vIOMMU).
Jason,
Do you mean what we've worked on before?
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2017-06/msg00574.html
(I just read the previous discussion on that patch, it seems to be
exactly what we've discussed again...)
Thanks,
>
> Vhost doesn't need to know whether an address is an IOVA (vIOMMU) , GPA (no
> vIOMMU), or even HVA (dpdk virtio-user).
>
> Thanks
>
>
> >
> > For the s390's specific issue, I would think Jason's patch an simple
> > and ideal solution already.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
>
--
Peter Xu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-03-17 14:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-02-26 9:43 [PATCH V2] vhost: correctly turn on VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM Jason Wang
2020-02-26 9:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-26 10:17 ` Jason Wang
2020-02-26 11:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-26 12:50 ` Halil Pasic
2020-02-26 12:55 ` Halil Pasic
2020-02-26 13:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-26 13:28 ` Halil Pasic
2020-02-26 13:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-26 15:36 ` Halil Pasic
2020-02-26 16:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-27 13:02 ` Halil Pasic
2020-02-27 15:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-03 14:44 ` Halil Pasic
2020-03-13 12:44 ` Halil Pasic
2020-03-13 15:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-13 16:31 ` Peter Xu
2020-03-16 16:57 ` Halil Pasic
2020-03-16 17:31 ` Peter Xu
2020-03-16 17:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-16 18:14 ` Peter Xu
2020-03-17 3:04 ` Jason Wang
2020-03-17 14:13 ` Peter Xu [this message]
2020-03-18 2:06 ` Jason Wang
2020-03-17 6:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-17 14:39 ` Peter Xu
2020-03-17 14:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-13 20:27 ` Brijesh Singh
2020-03-14 18:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-27 20:36 ` Tom Lendacky
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