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From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
Cc: "pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Zeng, Xin" <xin.zeng@intel.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] hw/vfio: let readonly flag take effect for mmaped regions
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 13:28:27 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200331132827.514b73b0@w520.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200331015941.GD6631@joy-OptiPlex-7040>

On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 21:59:41 -0400
Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:59:23PM +0800, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 02:34:02 -0400
> > Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com> wrote:
> >   
> > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 09:35:27AM +0800, Yan Zhao wrote:  
> > > > On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 01:25:37AM +0800, Alex Williamson wrote:    
> > > > > On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 11:19:34 +0000
> > > > > yan.y.zhao@intel.com wrote:
> > > > >     
> > > > > > From: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > currently, vfio regions without VFIO_REGION_INFO_FLAG_WRITE are only
> > > > > > read-only when VFIO_REGION_INFO_FLAG_MMAP is not set.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > regions with flag VFIO_REGION_INFO_FLAG_READ | VFIO_REGION_INFO_FLAG_MMAP
> > > > > > are only read-only in host page table for qemu.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > This patch sets corresponding ept page entries read-only for regions
> > > > > > with flag VFIO_REGION_INFO_FLAG_READ | VFIO_REGION_INFO_FLAG_MMAP.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > accordingly, it ignores guest write when guest writes to the read-only
> > > > > > regions are trapped.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Xin Zeng <xin.zeng@intel.com>
> > > > > > ---    
> > > > > 
> > > > > Currently we set the r/w protection on the mmap, do I understand
> > > > > correctly that the change in the vfio code below results in KVM exiting
> > > > > to QEMU to handle a write to a read-only region and therefore we need
> > > > > the memory.c change to drop the write?  This prevents a SIGBUS or
> > > > > similar?    
> > > > yes, correct. the change in memory.c is to prevent a SIGSEGV in host as
> > > > it's mmaped to read-only. we think it's better to just drop the writes
> > > > from guest rather than corrupt the qemu.
> > > >     
> > > > > 
> > > > > Meanwhile vfio_region_setup() uses the same vfio_region_ops for all
> > > > > regions and vfio_region_write() would still allow writes, so if the
> > > > > device were using x-no-mmap=on, I think we'd still get a write to this
> > > > > region and expect the vfio device to drop it.  Should we prevent that
> > > > > write in QEMU as well?    
> > > > yes, it expects vfio device to drop it right now.
> > > > As the driver sets the flag without VFIO_REGION_INFO_FLAG_WRITE, it should
> > > > handle it properly.
> > > > both dropping in qemu and dropping in vfio device are fine to us.
> > > > we wonder which one is your preference :)  
> > 
> > The kernel and device should always do the right thing, we cannot rely
> > on the user to honor the mapping, but it's also a reasonable response
> > from the kernel to kill the process with a SIGSEGV if the user ignores
> > the protections.  So I don't think it's an either/or, the kernel needs
> > to do the right thing for itself and in this case QEMU should do the
> > right thing for itself, which is to drop writes for regions that don't
> > support it.  So in general, I agree with your patch.
> >  
> hi Alex
> so is there anything I need to do? do I need to add a write dropping in
> vfio_region_write() too? if yes, do I need to keep the
> trace_vfio_region_write() before dropping ?

Hi Yan,

Yes to both feels the most consistent, right?  If we want the same
behavior between mmap'd and non-mmap'd regions, QEMU should drop both
writes.  Your change to memory_region_ram_device_write() drops the
write after tracing.  For both cases though it might be worthwhile to
have a separate trace recorded to indicate a dropped write, probably in
place of the normal trace to avoid confusion.  Thanks,

Alex



  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-31 19:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-27 11:19 [PATCH] hw/vfio: let readonly flag take effect for mmaped regions yan.y.zhao
2020-03-27 10:51 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-03-27 16:17   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-03-31  7:59     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-04-01  6:47       ` Yan Zhao
2020-03-27 17:25 ` Alex Williamson
2020-03-30  1:35   ` Yan Zhao
2020-03-30  6:34     ` Yan Zhao
2020-03-30 14:59       ` Alex Williamson
2020-03-31  1:59         ` Yan Zhao
2020-03-31 19:28           ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2020-04-01  6:45             ` Yan Zhao

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