From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
Cc: fam@euphon.net, kwolf@redhat.com,
Peter Krempa <pkrempa@redhat.com>,
qemu-block@nongnu.org, quintela@redhat.com,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, mreitz@redhat.com, stefanha@redhat.com,
den@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] fix migration with bitmaps and mirror
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 16:05:36 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200403150536.GE3335@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f53ec85f-e8c8-5717-2246-9ce8d6dd8e0a@virtuozzo.com>
* Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy (vsementsov@virtuozzo.com) wrote:
> 03.04.2020 14:29, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
> > 03.04.2020 14:23, Peter Krempa wrote:
> > > On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 14:02:47 +0300, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
> > > > 19.12.2019 13:36, Peter Krempa wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 11:51:01 +0300, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
> > > > > > Hi all!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's a continuation for
> > > > > > "bitmap migration bug with -drive while block mirror runs"
> > > > > > <315cff78-dcdb-a3ce-2742-da3cc9f0ca97@redhat.com>
> > > > > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2019-09/msg07241.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The problem is that bitmaps migrated to node with same node-name or
> > > > > > blk-parent name. And currently only the latter actually work in libvirt.
> > > > > > And with mirror-top filter it doesn't work, because
> > > > > > bdrv_get_device_or_node_name don't go through filters.
> > > > >
> > > > > I want to point out that since libvirt-5.10 we use -blockdev to
> > > > > configure the backend of storage devices with qemu-4.2 and later. This
> > > > > means unfortunately that the BlockBackend of the drive does not have a
> > > > > name any more and thus the above will not work even if you make the
> > > > > lookup code to see through filters.
> > > >
> > > > Not that this series doesn't make things worse, as it loops through named
> > > > block backends when trying to use their name for migration. So with these
> > > > patches applied, qemu will just work in more possible scenarios.
> > >
> > > Okay, if that's so it's fair enough in this case.
> > >
> > > I'm just very firmly against baking in the assumption that
> > > node names mean the same thing accross migration, because that will
> > > create a precedent situation and more stuff may be baked in on top of
> > > this in the future. It seems that it has already happened though and
> > > it's wrong. And the worst part is that it's never mentioned that this
> > > might occur. But again, don't do that and preferrably remove the
> > > matching of node names for bitmaps altogether until we can control it
> > > arbitrarily.
> > >
> > > We've also seen this already before with the backend name of memory
> > > devices being baked in to the migration stream which creates an unwanted
> > > dependancy.
> > >
> >
> > Hmm. Actually, matching by node-name never worked. May be just drop it now, and allow only matching by blk-name?
> >
> > And then (in 5.1) implement special qmp commands for precise mapping.
> >
>
> Hmm, it may break someones setup... Bad idea. Probably we can forbid auto-generated node-names.
If we want to remove it I guess we have to go through a proper
deprecation; but that's OK.
The thing to keep in mind is that when people say 'the commandline
should match' on source/destination - that's just not true;
so we have to define what actually needs to stay the same for bitmap
migration to work.
Dave
> --
> Best regards,
> Vladimir
>
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-04-03 15:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-12-19 8:51 [PATCH v2 0/5] fix migration with bitmaps and mirror Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-12-19 8:51 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] block: Mark commit and mirror as filter drivers Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-01-31 19:23 ` Eric Blake
2020-05-14 18:51 ` Eric Blake
2019-12-19 8:51 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] migretion/block-dirty-bitmap: refactor init_dirty_bitmap_migration Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-01-31 19:28 ` Eric Blake
2019-12-19 8:51 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] block/dirty-bitmap: add bdrv_has_named_bitmaps helper Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-05-14 18:30 ` Eric Blake
2019-12-19 8:51 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] migration/block-dirty-bitmap: fix bitmaps migration during mirror job Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-05-14 18:52 ` Eric Blake
2019-12-19 8:51 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] iotests: 194: test also migration of dirty bitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-12-19 10:36 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] fix migration with bitmaps and mirror Peter Krempa
2019-12-19 11:39 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-04-03 11:02 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-04-03 11:23 ` Peter Krempa
2020-04-03 11:29 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-04-03 11:52 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-04-03 15:05 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2020-04-03 15:34 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-05-14 18:29 ` Eric Blake
2020-05-15 5:52 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-05-15 11:15 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-05-15 17:51 ` Eric Blake
2020-05-15 19:49 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-01-20 9:04 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
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