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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Wei Wang <wei.w.wang@intel.com>
Cc: kevin.tian@intel.com, quintela@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	peterx@redhat.com, gloryxiao@tencent.com, yi.y.sun@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/2] migration/xbzrle: replace transferred xbzrle bytes with encoded bytes
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 11:47:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200424104734.GE3106@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5E9FB148.3060906@intel.com>

* Wei Wang (wei.w.wang@intel.com) wrote:
> On 04/22/2020 03:21 AM, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > * Wei Wang (wei.w.wang@intel.com) wrote:
> > > Like compressed_size which indicates how many bytes are compressed, we
> > > need encoded_size to understand how many bytes are encoded with xbzrle
> > > during migration.
> > > 
> > > Replace the old xbzrle_counter.bytes, instead of adding a new counter,
> > > because we don't find a usage of xbzrle_counter.bytes currently, which
> > > includes 3 more bytes of the migration transfer protocol header (in
> > > addition to the encoding header). The encoded_size will further be used
> > > to calculate the encoding rate.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Yi Sun <yi.y.sun@intel.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Wei Wang <wei.w.wang@intel.com>
> > Can you explain why these 3 bytes matter?  Certainly the 2 bytes of the
> > encoded_len are an overhead that's a cost of using XBZRLE; so if you're
> > trying to figure out whether xbzrle is worth it, then you should include
> > those 2 bytes in the cost.
> > That other byte, that holds ENCODING_FLAG_XBZRLE also seems to be pure
> > oerhead of XBZRLE; so your cost of using XBZRLE really does include
> > those 3 bytes.
> > 
> > SO to me it makes sense to include the 3 bytes as it currently does.
> > 
> > Dave
> 
> Thanks Dave for sharing your thoughts.
> 
> We hope to do a fair comparison of compression rate and xbzrle encoding
> rate.
> The current compression_rate doesn't include the migration flag overhead
> (please see
> update_compress thread_counts() ). So for xbzrle encoding rate, we wanted it
> not include the migration
> protocol flags as well (but the 2 bytes xbzrle encoding overhead is kept
> there, as the compression rate
> includes the compression header overhead).
> 
> Or would you think it is necessary to add the migration flag (8 bytes) for
> compression
> when calculating the compression rate?

I don't think the migration flag (8 bytes) matters, because everyone has
that; but isn't this patch about the 3 bytes (1 byte
ENCONDING_FLAG_XBZRLE) (2 byte encoded_len) ?

The 2 byte encoded_len in this code, corresponds to the 4 byte blen in
qemu_put_compression_data;  I'm not sure but I think that 4 bytes is
included in the length update_compress_thread_counts() sees - if so
that makes it equivalent including the length.

Dave


> Best,
> Wei
> 
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK



  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-24 10:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-20  3:06 [PATCH v1 0/2] Migration xbzrle changes Wei Wang
2020-04-20  3:06 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] migration/xbzrle: replace transferred xbzrle bytes with encoded bytes Wei Wang
2020-04-20  9:29   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-04-20  9:49     ` Wei Wang
2020-04-21 19:21   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-04-22  2:51     ` Wei Wang
2020-04-24 10:47       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2020-04-27  7:26         ` Wei Wang
2020-04-20  3:06 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] migration/xbzrle: add encoding rate Wei Wang
2020-04-20  9:30   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-04-20 14:53   ` Eric Blake
2020-04-21  1:14     ` Wei Wang

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