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From: Cleber Rosa <crosa@redhat.com>
To: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>
Cc: "Fam Zheng" <fam@euphon.net>,
	"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Beraldo Leal" <bleal@redhat.com>,
	"Erik Skultety" <eskultet@redhat.com>,
	"Wainer Moschetta" <wmoschet@redhat.com>,
	"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"Wainer dos Santos Moschetta" <wainersm@redhat.com>,
	"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Willian Rampazzo" <wrampazz@redhat.com>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	"Eduardo Habkost" <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] QEMU Gating CI
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 10:28:35 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200427102835.6f625859@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <05670290-5ba0-8be0-624b-da1c95f3e820@redhat.com>

On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 12:51:36 +0200
Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 4/27/20 7:12 AM, Cleber Rosa wrote:
> > On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 23:28:21 +0200
> > Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd@redhat.com> wrote:
> [...]
> >> In some cases custom runners are acceptable. These runners won't be
> >> "gating" but can post informative log and status.
> >>
> > 
> > Well, I have the feeling that some people maintaining those runners
> > will *not* want to have them as "informational" only.  If they
> > invest a good amount of time on them, I believe they'll want to
> > reap the benefits such as other not breaking the code they rely on.
> >  If their system is not gating, they lose that and may find
> > breakage that CI did not catch.  Again, I don't think "easily
> > accessible" hardware should be the only criteria for
> > gating/non-gating status.
> > 
> > For instance, would you consider, say, a "Raspberry Pi 4 Model
> > B", running KVM jobs to be a reproducible runner?  Would you blame a
> > developer that breaks a Gating CI job on such a platform and says
> > that he can not reproduce it?
> 
> I'm not sure I understood the problem, as I'd answer "yes" but I
> guess you expect me to say "no"?
> 

What I mean is: would you blame such a developer for *not* having a
machine himself/herself that he/she can try to reproduce the failure?
And would you consider a "Raspberry Pi 4 Model B" an easily available
hardware?

> [...]
> >> Now the problem is GitLab runner is not natively available on the
> >> architectures listed in this mail, so custom setup is required. A
> >> dumb script running ssh to a machine also works (tested) but lot of
> >> manual tuning/maintenance expected.
> >>
> > 
> > That's where I'm trying to help.  I built and tested the
> > gitlab-runner for a number of non-supported environments, and I
> > expect to build further on that (say contributing code or feedback
> > back to GitLab so they become official builds?).
> 
> Good luck with that, it took more that 2 years to GitLab to
> officially support AMD64:
> https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-runner/-/merge_requests/725
> 

You mean aarch64, sure.  I'm not holding my breath, because we can
always have our own binaries/ports (or other executors such as ssh) but
I'm optimistic...

> Hopefully the first non-x86 user was the hardest one who had to do
> all the bad work, and next architecture might get supported quicker...
> 

... and this point is one of the reasons.  The other is competition
from Travis-CI (and others).

Cheers,
- Cleber.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-27 14:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-12 19:36 [PATCH 0/5] QEMU Gating CI Cleber Rosa
2020-03-12 19:36 ` [PATCH 1/5] tests/docker: add CentOS 8 Dockerfile Cleber Rosa
2020-03-13  8:46   ` Erik Skultety
2020-03-13 14:06     ` Alex Bennée
2020-03-13 14:59     ` Cleber Rosa
2020-03-13 14:07   ` Alex Bennée
2020-03-12 19:36 ` [PATCH 2/5] tests/docker: make "buildah bud" output similar to "docker build" Cleber Rosa
2020-03-14 15:26   ` Alex Bennée
2020-03-12 19:36 ` [PATCH 3/5] GitLab CI: avoid calling before_scripts on unintended jobs Cleber Rosa
2020-03-12 19:36 ` [PATCH 4/5] GitLab Gating CI: introduce pipeline-status contrib script Cleber Rosa
2020-03-13 13:56   ` Peter Maydell
2020-03-13 15:01     ` Cleber Rosa
2020-06-18 11:45   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-06-22 14:20     ` Cleber Rosa
2020-06-23 17:59       ` Cleber Rosa
2020-07-02  8:55         ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-03-12 19:36 ` [PATCH 5/5] GitLab Gating CI: initial set of jobs, documentation and scripts Cleber Rosa
2020-03-12 22:00 ` [PATCH 0/5] QEMU Gating CI Peter Maydell
2020-03-12 22:16   ` Cleber Rosa
2020-03-13 13:55     ` Peter Maydell
2020-03-13 14:58       ` Cleber Rosa
2020-03-16 11:57     ` Peter Maydell
2020-03-16 12:04       ` Cleber Rosa
2020-03-16 12:12         ` Peter Maydell
2020-03-16 12:26           ` Cleber Rosa
2020-03-16 12:30             ` Cleber Rosa
2020-03-16 14:57             ` Peter Maydell
2020-03-17  4:59               ` Cleber Rosa
2020-03-17  9:29                 ` Peter Maydell
2020-03-17 14:12                   ` Cleber Rosa
2020-03-17 14:24                     ` Peter Maydell
2020-03-19 16:33                       ` Markus Armbruster
2020-03-19 23:53                         ` Cleber Rosa
2020-04-21 12:53                         ` Peter Maydell
2020-04-23 17:04                           ` Cleber Rosa
2020-04-23 17:13                             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-04-23 17:36                               ` Cleber Rosa
2020-04-23 17:50                                 ` Peter Maydell
2020-04-27  4:43                                   ` Cleber Rosa
2020-04-24  9:30                                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-04-24  9:39                                   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-04-27  5:36                                   ` Cleber Rosa
2020-04-23 21:28                               ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-04-24  6:57                                 ` Erik Skultety
2020-04-27  5:24                                   ` Cleber Rosa
2020-04-27  8:51                                     ` Andrea Bolognani
2020-04-27  5:12                                 ` Cleber Rosa
2020-04-27 10:51                                   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-04-27 14:28                                     ` Cleber Rosa [this message]
2020-04-27 14:41                                       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-04-27 15:19                                         ` Cleber Rosa
2020-04-27 15:20                                         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-06-16  1:27                             ` Cleber Rosa
2020-03-16 12:38 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-03-16 12:46   ` Cleber Rosa
2020-03-16 13:11   ` Alex Bennée
2020-03-16 15:38     ` Aleksandar Markovic

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