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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-s390x@nongnu.org,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 01/17] exec: Introduce ram_block_discard_set_(unreliable|required)()
Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 17:15:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200515161521.GJ2954@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8dc6cefb-63ee-9310-ce18-abf558a08b39@redhat.com>

* David Hildenbrand (david@redhat.com) wrote:
> On 06.05.20 11:49, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > We want to replace qemu_balloon_inhibit() by something more generic.
> > Especially, we want to make sure that technologies that really rely on
> > RAM block discards to work reliably to run mutual exclusive with
> > technologies that break it.
> > 
> > E.g., vfio will usually pin all guest memory, turning the virtio-balloon
> > basically useless and make the VM consume more memory than reported via
> > the balloon. While the balloon is special already (=> no guarantees, same
> > behavior possible afer reboots and with huge pages), this will be
> > different, especially, with virtio-mem.
> > 
> > Let's implement a way such that we can make both types of technology run
> > mutually exclusive. We'll convert existing balloon inhibitors in successive
> > patches and add some new ones. Add the check to
> > qemu_balloon_is_inhibited() for now. We might want to make
> > virtio-balloon an acutal inhibitor in the future - however, that
> > requires more thought to not break existing setups.
> > 
> > Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
> > Cc: Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
> > Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
> > Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
> > ---
> >  balloon.c             |  3 ++-
> >  exec.c                | 48 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  include/exec/memory.h | 41 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  3 files changed, 91 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/balloon.c b/balloon.c
> > index f104b42961..c49f57c27b 100644
> > --- a/balloon.c
> > +++ b/balloon.c
> > @@ -40,7 +40,8 @@ static int balloon_inhibit_count;
> >  
> >  bool qemu_balloon_is_inhibited(void)
> >  {
> > -    return atomic_read(&balloon_inhibit_count) > 0;
> > +    return atomic_read(&balloon_inhibit_count) > 0 ||
> > +           ram_block_discard_is_broken();
> >  }
> >  
> >  void qemu_balloon_inhibit(bool state)
> > diff --git a/exec.c b/exec.c
> > index 2874bb5088..52a6e40e99 100644
> > --- a/exec.c
> > +++ b/exec.c
> > @@ -4049,4 +4049,52 @@ void mtree_print_dispatch(AddressSpaceDispatch *d, MemoryRegion *root)
> >      }
> >  }
> >  
> > +static int ram_block_discard_broken;
> > +
> > +int ram_block_discard_set_broken(bool state)
> > +{
> > +    int old;
> > +
> > +    if (!state) {
> > +        atomic_dec(&ram_block_discard_broken);
> > +        return 0;
> > +    }
> > +
> > +    do {
> > +        old = atomic_read(&ram_block_discard_broken);
> > +        if (old < 0) {
> > +            return -EBUSY;
> > +        }
> > +    } while (atomic_cmpxchg(&ram_block_discard_broken, old, old + 1) != old);
> > +    return 0;
> > +}
> > +
> > +int ram_block_discard_set_required(bool state)
> > +{
> > +    int old;
> > +
> > +    if (!state) {
> > +        atomic_inc(&ram_block_discard_broken);
> > +        return 0;
> > +    }
> > +
> > +    do {
> > +        old = atomic_read(&ram_block_discard_broken);
> > +        if (old > 0) {
> > +            return -EBUSY;
> > +        }
> > +    } while (atomic_cmpxchg(&ram_block_discard_broken, old, old - 1) != old);
> > +    return 0;
> > +}
> > +
> > +bool ram_block_discard_is_broken(void)
> > +{
> > +    return atomic_read(&ram_block_discard_broken) > 0;
> > +}
> > +
> > +bool ram_block_discard_is_required(void)
> > +{
> > +    return atomic_read(&ram_block_discard_broken) < 0;
> > +}
> > +
> >  #endif
> > diff --git a/include/exec/memory.h b/include/exec/memory.h
> > index e000bd2f97..9bb5ced38d 100644
> > --- a/include/exec/memory.h
> > +++ b/include/exec/memory.h
> > @@ -2463,6 +2463,47 @@ static inline MemOp devend_memop(enum device_endian end)
> >  }
> >  #endif
> >  
> > +/*
> > + * Inhibit technologies that rely on discarding of parts of RAM blocks to work
> > + * reliably, e.g., to manage the actual amount of memory consumed by the VM
> > + * (then, the memory provided by RAM blocks might be bigger than the desired
> > + * memory consumption). This *must* be set if:
> > + * - Discarding parts of a RAM blocks does not result in the change being
> > + *   reflected in the VM and the pages getting freed.
> > + * - All memory in RAM blocks is pinned or duplicated, invaldiating any previous
> > + *   discards blindly.
> > + * - Discarding parts of a RAM blocks will result in integrity issues (e.g.,
> > + *   encrypted VMs).
> > + * Technologies that only temporarily pin the current working set of a
> > + * driver are fine, because we don't expect such pages to be discarded
> > + * (esp. based on guest action like balloon inflation).
> > + *
> > + * This is *not* to be used to protect from concurrent discards (esp.,
> > + * postcopy).
> > + *
> > + * Returns 0 if successful. Returns -EBUSY if a technology that relies on
> > + * discards to work reliably is active.
> > + */
> > +int ram_block_discard_set_broken(bool state);
> > +
> > +/*
> > + * Inhibit technologies that will break discarding of pages in RAM blocks.
> > + *
> > + * Returns 0 if successful. Returns -EBUSY if discards are already set to
> > + * broken.
> > + */
> > +int ram_block_discard_set_required(bool state);
> > +
> > +/*
> > + * Test if discarding of memory in ram blocks is broken.
> > + */
> > +bool ram_block_discard_is_broken(void);
> > +
> > +/*
> > + * Test if discarding of memory in ram blocks is required to work reliably.
> > + */
> > +bool ram_block_discard_is_required(void);
> > +
> >  #endif
> >  
> >  #endif
> > 
> 
> I'm wondering if I'll just call these functions
> 
> ram_block_discard_disable()
> 
> and
> 
> ram_block_discard_require()

Yeh I prefer that.

Dave

> -- 
> Thanks,
> 
> David / dhildenb
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK



  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-15 16:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-06  9:49 [PATCH v1 00/17] virtio-mem: Paravirtualized memory hot(un)plug David Hildenbrand
2020-05-06  9:49 ` [PATCH v1 01/17] exec: Introduce ram_block_discard_set_(unreliable|required)() David Hildenbrand
2020-05-15  9:54   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-05-15 14:40     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-05-15 14:54   ` David Hildenbrand
2020-05-15 16:15     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2020-05-06  9:49 ` [PATCH v1 02/17] vfio: Convert to ram_block_discard_set_broken() David Hildenbrand
2020-05-15 12:01   ` David Hildenbrand
2020-05-06  9:49 ` [PATCH v1 03/17] accel/kvm: " David Hildenbrand
2020-05-15 11:57   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-05-06  9:49 ` [PATCH v1 04/17] s390x/pv: " David Hildenbrand
2020-05-06  9:49 ` [PATCH v1 05/17] virtio-balloon: Rip out qemu_balloon_inhibit() David Hildenbrand
2020-05-15 12:09   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-05-15 12:12     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-05-06  9:49 ` [PATCH v1 06/17] target/i386: sev: Use ram_block_discard_set_broken() David Hildenbrand
2020-05-15 15:51   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-05-06  9:49 ` [PATCH v1 07/17] migration/rdma: " David Hildenbrand
2020-05-15 12:45   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-05-15 14:09     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-05-15 17:51       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-05-15 17:59         ` David Hildenbrand
2020-05-15 18:36           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-05-18 13:52             ` David Hildenbrand
2020-05-06  9:49 ` [PATCH v1 08/17] migration/colo: " David Hildenbrand
2020-05-15 13:58   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-05-15 14:05     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-05-06  9:49 ` [PATCH v1 09/17] linux-headers: update to contain virtio-mem David Hildenbrand
2020-05-06  9:49 ` [PATCH v1 10/17] virtio-mem: Paravirtualized memory hot(un)plug David Hildenbrand
2020-05-06 16:12   ` Eric Blake
2020-05-06 16:14     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-05-15 15:37   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-05-15 16:48     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-05-18 14:23       ` David Hildenbrand
2020-05-06  9:49 ` [PATCH v1 11/17] virtio-pci: Proxy for virtio-mem David Hildenbrand
2020-05-06 18:57   ` Pankaj Gupta
2020-05-18 13:34     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-05-06  9:49 ` [PATCH v1 12/17] MAINTAINERS: Add myself as virtio-mem maintainer David Hildenbrand
2020-05-15 15:55   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-05-06  9:49 ` [PATCH v1 13/17] hmp: Handle virtio-mem when printing memory device info David Hildenbrand
2020-05-06 19:03   ` Pankaj Gupta
2020-05-06  9:49 ` [PATCH v1 14/17] numa: Handle virtio-mem in NUMA stats David Hildenbrand
2020-05-06  9:49 ` [PATCH v1 15/17] pc: Support for virtio-mem-pci David Hildenbrand
2020-05-06 12:19   ` Pankaj Gupta
2020-05-06  9:49 ` [PATCH v1 16/17] virtio-mem: Allow notifiers for size changes David Hildenbrand
2020-05-15 16:46   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-05-06  9:49 ` [PATCH v1 17/17] virtio-pci: Send qapi events when the virtio-mem " David Hildenbrand
2020-05-15 15:18   ` David Hildenbrand

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