From: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
To: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
qemu-s390x@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
Boris Fiuczynski <fiuczy@linux.ibm.com>,
Janosch Frank <frankja@linux.ibm.com>,
Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
Viktor Mihajlovski <mihajlov@linux.ibm.com>,
Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] virtio-ccw: auto-manage VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM if PV
Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 14:16:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200520141633.49e91a43.pasic@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200514221155.32079-1-pasic@linux.ibm.com>
On Fri, 15 May 2020 00:11:55 +0200
Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> The virtio specification tells that the device is to present
> VIRTIO_F_ACCESS_PLATFORM (a.k.a. VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM) when the
> device "can only access certain memory addresses with said access
> specified and/or granted by the platform". This is the case for a
> protected VMs, as the device can access only memory addresses that are
> in pages that are currently shared (only the guest can share/unsare its
> pages).
>
> No VM, however, starts out as a protected VM, but some VMs may be
> converted to protected VMs if the guest decides so.
>
> Making the end user explicitly manage the VIRTIO_F_ACCESS_PLATFORM via
> the property iommu_on is a minor disaster. Since the correctness of the
> paravirtualized virtio devices depends (and thus in a sense the
> correctness of the hypervisor) it, then the hypervisor should have the
> last word about whether VIRTIO_F_ACCESS_PLATFORM is to be presented or
> not.
>
> Currently presenting a PV guest with a (paravirtualized) virtio-ccw
> device has catastrophic consequences for the VM (after the hypervisors
> access to protected memory). This is especially grave in case of device
> hotplug (because in this case the guest is more likely to be in the
> middle of something important).
>
> Let us manage the VIRTIO_F_ACCESS_PLATFORM virtio feature automatically
> for virtio-ccw devices, i.e. force it before we start the protected VM.
> If the VM should cease to be protected, the original value is restored.
>
> Signed-off-by: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
> ---
>
> NOTES:
>
> * Doing more system_resets() is a big hack. We should look into this.
> * The user interface implications of this patch are also an ugly can of
> worms. We need to discuss them.
>
>
> v1 --> v2:
> * Use the default or user supplied iommu_on flag when when !PV
> * Use virtio functions for feature manipulation
>
> Link to v1:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/qemu-devel@nongnu.org/msg683775.html
>
> Unfortunately the v1 did not see much discussion because we had more
> pressing issues.
>
>
polite ping
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-05-20 12:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-05-14 22:11 [PATCH v2 1/1] virtio-ccw: auto-manage VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM if PV Halil Pasic
2020-05-20 12:16 ` Halil Pasic [this message]
2020-05-20 16:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-05-22 21:04 ` Halil Pasic
2020-05-28 11:21 ` Cornelia Huck
2020-05-28 14:42 ` Janosch Frank
2020-05-28 18:49 ` Halil Pasic
2020-05-28 17:52 ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-05 23:32 ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-08 16:14 ` Cornelia Huck
2020-06-08 17:00 ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-09 6:44 ` Cornelia Huck
2020-06-09 9:41 ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-09 14:02 ` Pierre Morel
2020-06-09 15:47 ` Claudio Imbrenda
2020-06-09 16:05 ` Cornelia Huck
2020-06-09 16:41 ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-10 13:34 ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-09 16:28 ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-09 16:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-06-10 4:31 ` David Gibson
2020-06-10 7:22 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-06-10 10:07 ` David Gibson
2020-06-10 10:24 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-06-10 13:00 ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-10 13:19 ` Viktor Mihajlovski
2020-06-10 14:00 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-06-19 0:36 ` David Gibson
2020-06-19 0:33 ` David Gibson
2020-06-10 13:15 ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-10 4:29 ` David Gibson
2020-06-10 13:57 ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-19 0:59 ` David Gibson
2020-06-09 16:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-06-10 4:25 ` David Gibson
2020-06-10 21:37 ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-19 1:01 ` David Gibson
2020-06-08 16:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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