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From: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
To: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	qemu-s390x@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
	Boris Fiuczynski <fiuczy@linux.ibm.com>,
	Janosch Frank <frankja@linux.ibm.com>,
	Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Viktor Mihajlovski <mihajlov@linux.ibm.com>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] virtio-ccw: auto-manage VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM if PV
Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 14:16:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200520141633.49e91a43.pasic@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200514221155.32079-1-pasic@linux.ibm.com>

On Fri, 15 May 2020 00:11:55 +0200
Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com> wrote:

> The virtio specification tells that the device is to present
> VIRTIO_F_ACCESS_PLATFORM (a.k.a. VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM) when the
> device "can only access certain memory addresses with said access
> specified and/or granted by the platform". This is the case for a
> protected VMs, as the device can access only memory addresses that are
> in pages that are currently shared (only the guest can share/unsare its
> pages).
> 
> No VM, however, starts out as a protected VM, but some VMs may be
> converted to protected VMs if the guest decides so.
> 
> Making the end user explicitly manage the VIRTIO_F_ACCESS_PLATFORM via
> the property iommu_on is a minor disaster. Since the correctness of the
> paravirtualized virtio devices depends (and thus in a sense the
> correctness of the hypervisor) it, then the hypervisor should have the
> last word about whether VIRTIO_F_ACCESS_PLATFORM is to be presented or
> not.
> 
> Currently presenting a PV guest with a (paravirtualized) virtio-ccw
> device has catastrophic consequences for the VM (after the hypervisors
> access to protected memory). This is especially grave in case of device
> hotplug (because in this case the guest is more likely to be in the
> middle of something important).
> 
> Let us manage the VIRTIO_F_ACCESS_PLATFORM virtio feature automatically
> for virtio-ccw devices, i.e. force it before we start the protected VM.
> If the VM should cease to be protected, the original value is restored.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
> ---
> 
> NOTES:
> 
> * Doing more system_resets() is a big hack.  We should look into this.
> * The user interface implications of this patch are also an ugly can of
> worms. We need to discuss them.
> 
> 
> v1 --> v2:
> * Use the default or user supplied iommu_on flag when when !PV
> * Use virtio functions for feature manipulation
> 
> Link to v1:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/qemu-devel@nongnu.org/msg683775.html
> 
> Unfortunately the v1 did not see much discussion because we had more
> pressing issues.
> 
>

polite ping


  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-20 12:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-14 22:11 [PATCH v2 1/1] virtio-ccw: auto-manage VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM if PV Halil Pasic
2020-05-20 12:16 ` Halil Pasic [this message]
2020-05-20 16:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-05-22 21:04   ` Halil Pasic
2020-05-28 11:21     ` Cornelia Huck
2020-05-28 14:42       ` Janosch Frank
2020-05-28 18:49         ` Halil Pasic
2020-05-28 17:52       ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-05 23:32   ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-08 16:14     ` Cornelia Huck
2020-06-08 17:00       ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-09  6:44         ` Cornelia Huck
2020-06-09  9:41           ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-09 14:02             ` Pierre Morel
2020-06-09 15:47             ` Claudio Imbrenda
2020-06-09 16:05               ` Cornelia Huck
2020-06-09 16:41                 ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-10 13:34                 ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-09 16:28               ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-09 16:44                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-06-10  4:31                   ` David Gibson
2020-06-10  7:22                     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-06-10 10:07                       ` David Gibson
2020-06-10 10:24                         ` David Hildenbrand
2020-06-10 13:00                           ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-10 13:19                           ` Viktor Mihajlovski
2020-06-10 14:00                             ` David Hildenbrand
2020-06-19  0:36                             ` David Gibson
2020-06-19  0:33                           ` David Gibson
2020-06-10 13:15                   ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-10  4:29                 ` David Gibson
2020-06-10 13:57                   ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-19  0:59                     ` David Gibson
2020-06-09 16:41               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-06-10  4:25           ` David Gibson
2020-06-10 21:37             ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-19  1:01               ` David Gibson
2020-06-08 16:53     ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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