From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
Cc: "Fam Zheng" <fam@euphon.net>, "Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>,
"Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy" <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>,
"Eduardo Habkost" <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
qemu-block@nongnu.org,
"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
"Cleber Rosa" <crosa@redhat.com>, "Max Reitz" <mreitz@redhat.com>,
"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 01/32] python/qemu: create qemu.lib module
Date: Tue, 26 May 2020 16:22:07 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200526152207.GK2496524@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45dc0bb0-6b22-1703-0435-9d49d3df9978@redhat.com>
On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 08:27:54PM -0400, John Snow wrote:
>
>
> On 5/18/20 3:33 PM, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
> > 18.05.2020 21:23, John Snow wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5/18/20 2:14 PM, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
> >>> 14.05.2020 08:53, John Snow wrote:
> >>>> move python/qemu/*.py to python/qemu/lib/*.py.
> >>>>
> >>>> To create a namespace package, the 'qemu' directory itself shouldn't
> >>>> have module files in it. Thus, these files will go under a 'lib'
> >>>> package
> >>>> directory instead.
> >>>
> >>> Hmm..
> >>>
> >>> On the first glance, it looks better to have
> >>>
> >>> from qemu import QEMUMachine
> >>>
> >>> than
> >>> from qemu.lib import QEMUMachine
> >>>
> >>> why do we need this extra ".lib" part?
> >>>
> >>> Is it needed only for internal use?
> >>>
> >>> Assume we have installed qemu package. Can we write
> >>>
> >>> from qemu import QEMUMachine
> >>>
> >>> ? Or we still need qemu.lib ?
> >>>
> >>> I don't remember any python package, which made me to write "import from
> >>> package_name.lib ..."
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> It's a strategy to create "qemu" as a PEP420 namespace package; i.e.
> >> "qemu" forms a namespace, but you need a name for the actual package
> >> underneath it.
> >>
> >> "qemu.lib" is one package, with qmp, qtest, and machine modules. "qemu"
> >> isn't really a package in this system, it's just a namespace.
> >>
> >> The idea is that this allows us to create a more modular rollout of
> >> various python scripts and services as desired instead of monolithically
> >> bundling them all inside of a "qemu" package.
> >>
> >> It also allows us to fork or split out the sub-packages to separate
> >> repos, if we wish. i.e., let's say we create a "qemu.sdk" subpackage, we
> >> can eventually fork it off into its own repo with its own installer and
> >> so forth. These subpackages can be installed and managed separately.
> >>
> >
> > Okay, I understand.. No real objections than.
> >
> > Still, maybe, everything should not go into lib, maybe something like
> >
> > qemu/vm/ - qmp, QEMUMachine, etc
> > qemu/qtest/ - qtest
> >
> > would be more user friendly? But I'm not sure. I just thought that "lib"
> > is too generic.
> >
>
> lib is a very generic name, I agree.
>
> Splitting accel, qmp and QEMUMachine in one package and keeping qtest in
> another is fine too. I'm not sure if I like "vm" for the name of that
> core package, though.
>
> I want to avoid using "qemu/sdk" because I have some plans for trying to
> generate and package a "real" SDK using that namespace.
>
> "devkit"? "testkit"? "core"? Naming things is always the worst part.
I'd suggest "machine", as in
from qemu.machine import kvm_available, QEMUMachine
I wouldn't over-think the module naming as it has so little impact on
the code usage - it usually only appears in the "import" statement.
Regards,
Daniel
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Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-05-14 5:53 [PATCH RFC 00/32] python/qemu: refactor as installable package John Snow
2020-05-14 5:53 ` [PATCH RFC 01/32] python/qemu: create qemu.lib module John Snow
2020-05-18 18:14 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-05-18 18:23 ` John Snow
2020-05-18 19:33 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-05-19 0:27 ` John Snow
2020-05-19 10:54 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-05-26 15:07 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-06-02 11:15 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-05-26 15:22 ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2020-05-26 15:23 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-26 15:25 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-05-27 14:28 ` John Snow
2020-05-27 14:31 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-06-02 10:08 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-06-02 16:44 ` John Snow
2020-06-03 9:00 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-06-03 14:09 ` John Snow
2020-05-14 5:53 ` [PATCH RFC 02/32] scripts/qmp: Fix shebang and imports John Snow
2020-05-26 15:55 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-14 5:53 ` [PATCH RFC 03/32] python//machine.py: remove bare except John Snow
2020-05-14 13:55 ` Eric Blake
2020-05-14 14:26 ` John Snow
2020-05-26 15:08 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-26 15:09 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-06-02 11:01 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-06-02 16:47 ` John Snow
2020-05-14 5:53 ` [PATCH RFC 04/32] python/qemu/lib: delint, add pylintrc John Snow
2020-05-26 15:57 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-14 5:53 ` [PATCH RFC 05/32] python/qemu/lib: delint; add flake8 config John Snow
2020-05-26 15:58 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-31 9:57 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-14 5:53 ` [PATCH RFC 06/32] python/qemu: formalize as package John Snow
2020-05-26 16:00 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-14 5:53 ` [PATCH RFC 07/32] python/qemu: add README.rst John Snow
2020-05-14 5:53 ` [PATCH RFC 08/32] python/qemu: Add Pipfile John Snow
2020-05-14 5:53 ` [PATCH RFC 09/32] python/qemu: add pylint to Pipfile John Snow
2020-05-14 5:53 ` [PATCH RFC 10/32] python/qemu: Add flake8 " John Snow
2020-05-14 5:53 ` [PATCH RFC 11/32] python/qemu/lib: remove Python2 style super() calls John Snow
2020-05-14 6:01 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-31 9:58 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-14 5:53 ` [PATCH RFC 12/32] python/qemu/lib: fix socket.makefile() typing John Snow
2020-05-31 9:59 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-14 5:53 ` [PATCH RFC 13/32] python/qemu/lib: Adjust traceback typing John Snow
2020-05-26 16:01 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-31 10:01 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-14 5:53 ` [PATCH RFC 14/32] python//qmp.py: use True/False for non/blocking modes John Snow
2020-05-14 6:02 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-31 10:01 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-14 5:53 ` [PATCH RFC 15/32] python//qmp.py: Define common types John Snow
2020-05-14 5:53 ` [PATCH RFC 16/32] python//qmp.py: re-absorb MonitorResponseError John Snow
2020-05-14 6:03 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-14 5:53 ` [PATCH RFC 17/32] python//qmp.py: Do not return None from cmd_obj John Snow
2020-05-14 5:53 ` [PATCH RFC 18/32] python//qmp.py: add casts to JSON deserialization John Snow
2020-05-26 16:03 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-14 5:53 ` [PATCH RFC 19/32] python//qmp.py: add QMPProtocolError John Snow
2020-05-14 6:05 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-14 5:53 ` [PATCH RFC 20/32] python//qmp.py: assert sockfile is not None John Snow
2020-05-26 16:03 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-26 16:05 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-31 10:02 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-14 5:53 ` [PATCH RFC 21/32] python//machine.py: remove logging configuration John Snow
2020-05-14 6:06 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-31 10:03 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-14 5:53 ` [PATCH RFC 22/32] python//machine.py: Fix monitor address typing John Snow
2020-05-14 5:53 ` [PATCH RFC 23/32] python//machine.py: reorder __init__ John Snow
2020-05-14 6:08 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-14 5:53 ` [PATCH RFC 24/32] python//machine.py: Don't modify state in _base_args() John Snow
2020-05-14 5:53 ` [PATCH RFC 25/32] python//machine.py: Handle None events in event_wait John Snow
2020-05-14 5:53 ` [PATCH RFC 26/32] python//machine.py: use qmp.command John Snow
2020-05-29 0:18 ` John Snow
2020-06-02 10:18 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-06-02 10:26 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-06-02 20:11 ` John Snow
2020-05-14 5:53 ` [PATCH RFC 27/32] python//machine.py: Add _qmp access shim John Snow
2020-05-14 5:53 ` [PATCH RFC 28/32] python//machine.py: fix _popen access John Snow
2020-05-14 5:54 ` [PATCH RFC 29/32] python//qtest.py: Check before accessing _qtest John Snow
2020-05-14 6:13 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-31 10:04 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-14 5:54 ` [PATCH RFC 30/32] python/qemu/lib: make 'args' style arguments immutable John Snow
2020-05-14 5:54 ` [PATCH RFC 31/32] python/qemu: add mypy to Pipfile John Snow
2020-05-14 5:54 ` [PATCH RFC 32/32] python/qemu/lib: Add mypy type annotations John Snow
2020-05-18 12:41 ` [PATCH RFC 00/32] python/qemu: refactor as installable package Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-18 14:15 ` John Snow
2020-05-21 18:48 ` John Snow
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