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From: Claudio Imbrenda <imbrenda@linux.ibm.com>
To: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
	Boris Fiuczynski <fiuczy@linux.ibm.com>,
	Janosch Frank <frankja@linux.ibm.com>,
	Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	qemu-s390x@nongnu.org,
	Viktor Mihajlovski <mihajlov@linux.ibm.com>,
	David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] virtio-ccw: auto-manage VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM if PV
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2020 17:47:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200609174747.4e300818@ibm-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200609114130.0ca9190b.pasic@linux.ibm.com>

On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 11:41:30 +0200
Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com> wrote:

[...]

> I don't know. Janosch could answer that, but he is on vacation. Adding
> Claudio maybe he can answer. My understanding is, that while it might
> be possible, it is ugly at best. The ability to do a transition is
> indicated by a CPU model feature. Indicating the feature to the guest
> and then failing the transition sounds wrong to me.

I agree. If the feature is advertised, then it has to work. I don't
think we even have an architected way to fail the transition for that
reason.

What __could__ be done is to prevent qemu from even starting if an
incompatible device is specified together with PV.

Another option is to disable PV at the qemu level if an incompatible
device is present. This will have the effect that trying to boot a
secure guest will fail mysteriously, which is IMHO also not too great.

do we really have that many incompatible devices?




  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-06-09 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-14 22:11 [PATCH v2 1/1] virtio-ccw: auto-manage VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM if PV Halil Pasic
2020-05-20 12:16 ` Halil Pasic
2020-05-20 16:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-05-22 21:04   ` Halil Pasic
2020-05-28 11:21     ` Cornelia Huck
2020-05-28 14:42       ` Janosch Frank
2020-05-28 18:49         ` Halil Pasic
2020-05-28 17:52       ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-05 23:32   ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-08 16:14     ` Cornelia Huck
2020-06-08 17:00       ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-09  6:44         ` Cornelia Huck
2020-06-09  9:41           ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-09 14:02             ` Pierre Morel
2020-06-09 15:47             ` Claudio Imbrenda [this message]
2020-06-09 16:05               ` Cornelia Huck
2020-06-09 16:41                 ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-10 13:34                 ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-09 16:28               ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-09 16:44                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-06-10  4:31                   ` David Gibson
2020-06-10  7:22                     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-06-10 10:07                       ` David Gibson
2020-06-10 10:24                         ` David Hildenbrand
2020-06-10 13:00                           ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-10 13:19                           ` Viktor Mihajlovski
2020-06-10 14:00                             ` David Hildenbrand
2020-06-19  0:36                             ` David Gibson
2020-06-19  0:33                           ` David Gibson
2020-06-10 13:15                   ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-10  4:29                 ` David Gibson
2020-06-10 13:57                   ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-19  0:59                     ` David Gibson
2020-06-09 16:41               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-06-10  4:25           ` David Gibson
2020-06-10 21:37             ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-19  1:01               ` David Gibson
2020-06-08 16:53     ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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