From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
Cc: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
Boris Fiuczynski <fiuczy@linux.ibm.com>,
Janosch Frank <frankja@linux.ibm.com>,
Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
qemu-s390x@nongnu.org,
Viktor Mihajlovski <mihajlov@linux.ibm.com>,
Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] virtio-ccw: auto-manage VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM if PV
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 14:25:54 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200610042554.GD494336@umbus.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200609084402.35d317ec.cohuck@redhat.com>
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On Tue, Jun 09, 2020 at 08:44:02AM +0200, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 19:00:45 +0200
> Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
>
>
> > > I'm also not 100% sure about migration... would it make sense to
> > > discuss all of this in the context of the cross-arch patchset? It seems
> > > power has similar issues.
> > >
> >
> > I'm going to definitely have a good look at that. What I think special
> > about s390 is that F_ACCESS_PLATFORM is hurting us because all IO needs
> > to go through ZONE_DMA (this is a problem of the implementation that
> > stemming form a limitation of the DMA API, upstream didn't let me
> > fix it).
>
> My understanding is that power runs into similar issues, but I don't
> know much about power, so I might be entirely wrong :)
Sort of, but not to the same extent, I think.
[snip]
> > > (Can we disallow transition to pv if it is off? Maybe with the machine
> > > property approach from the cross-arch patchset?)
> >
> > No we can't disallow transition because for hotplug that already
> > happened.
>
> I mean, can a virtio devices without IOMMU_PLATFORM act as a transition
> blocker (i.e. an attempt by a guest to move to pv would fail?)
This might be possible, but I suspect having to explicitly say you
want pv support, then having it validate virtio (and anything else it
needs) will give a better UX.
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Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-05-14 22:11 [PATCH v2 1/1] virtio-ccw: auto-manage VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM if PV Halil Pasic
2020-05-20 12:16 ` Halil Pasic
2020-05-20 16:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-05-22 21:04 ` Halil Pasic
2020-05-28 11:21 ` Cornelia Huck
2020-05-28 14:42 ` Janosch Frank
2020-05-28 18:49 ` Halil Pasic
2020-05-28 17:52 ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-05 23:32 ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-08 16:14 ` Cornelia Huck
2020-06-08 17:00 ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-09 6:44 ` Cornelia Huck
2020-06-09 9:41 ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-09 14:02 ` Pierre Morel
2020-06-09 15:47 ` Claudio Imbrenda
2020-06-09 16:05 ` Cornelia Huck
2020-06-09 16:41 ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-10 13:34 ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-09 16:28 ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-09 16:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-06-10 4:31 ` David Gibson
2020-06-10 7:22 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-06-10 10:07 ` David Gibson
2020-06-10 10:24 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-06-10 13:00 ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-10 13:19 ` Viktor Mihajlovski
2020-06-10 14:00 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-06-19 0:36 ` David Gibson
2020-06-19 0:33 ` David Gibson
2020-06-10 13:15 ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-10 4:29 ` David Gibson
2020-06-10 13:57 ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-19 0:59 ` David Gibson
2020-06-09 16:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-06-10 4:25 ` David Gibson [this message]
2020-06-10 21:37 ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-19 1:01 ` David Gibson
2020-06-08 16:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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