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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Chirantan Ekbote <chirantan@chromium.org>
Cc: virtio-fs-list <virtio-fs@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Subject: Re: [Virtio-fs] [PATCH 0/2] virtiofsd: drop Linux capabilities(7)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 12:12:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200619111244.GE2690@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJFHJrpRGJ=myQzJtxjgQhHdbyhGXhz_N24=xJTKM4JqhhZG2g@mail.gmail.com>

* Chirantan Ekbote (chirantan@chromium.org) wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 5:40 PM Dr. David Alan Gilbert
> <dgilbert@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > * Chirantan Ekbote (chirantan@chromium.org) wrote:
> >
> > > We ended up working around it by prefixing "user.virtiofs." to the
> > > xattr name[2], which has its own problems but there was pretty much no
> > > chance that we would be able to give the fs device CAP_SYS_ADMIN in
> > > the init namespace.
> >
> >
> > What problems did you hit with that?  We should standardise the renaming
> > so we make an on-disc format that's compatible.
> >
> 
> I guess what I meant by problems is that it made what was previously a
> simple and straightforward implementation into something more complex
> and added some limitations.

Yeh.

>  For example, we now need to parse the
> result of the listxattr system call and strip out the prefix from any
> name in the list.  It also means that we cannot allow the guest to
> directly set or remove any "user.virtiofs." xattr as this would allow
> an unprivileged process in the vm to modify an xattr that it wouldn't
> otherwise be allowed to modify.  On top of being a somewhat arbitrary
> restriction this also means that you can't have stacked virtiofs
> instances as the lower instance would reject attempts by the upper one
> to set those xattrs.  These limitations aren't really a problem for us
> but I can see how they might be a problem for others.

Isn't this a classic escaping problem?
Would it work if you prepended  'user.virtiofs.' onto any xattr
that started with 'trusted' or 'user.virtiofs.' ?

> The change was also merged just yesterday so there may be other
> problems with it that haven't surfaced yet.
> 
> I didn't mention it before because I figured this was something that
> we brought upon ourselves as chrome os is a bit extreme about
> sandboxing. 

I think we're trying to be as extreme in virtiofsd, but it is causing us
similar problems.

> If we can come up with a standardized way to handle this
> I think we'll gladly switch the chrome os implementation to use it.

Great!

Dave

> 
> Chirantan
> 
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK



  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-19 11:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-16 16:49 [PATCH 0/2] virtiofsd: drop Linux capabilities(7) Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-04-16 16:49 ` [PATCH 1/2] virtiofsd: only retain file system capabilities Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-04-28 11:48   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-04-16 16:49 ` [PATCH 2/2] virtiofsd: drop all capabilities in the wait parent process Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-04-16 17:50   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-04-16 20:10 ` [PATCH 0/2] virtiofsd: drop Linux capabilities(7) Vivek Goyal
2020-04-17  9:42   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-05-01 18:28 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-06-18 19:08 ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2020-06-18 19:16   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-06-18 19:27     ` Vivek Goyal
2020-06-19  4:46       ` Chirantan Ekbote
2020-06-19  8:39         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-06-19  9:17           ` Chirantan Ekbote
2020-06-19 11:12             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2020-06-19 19:15         ` Vivek Goyal
2020-06-25  3:19           ` Chirantan Ekbote
2020-06-25 12:55             ` Vivek Goyal
2020-07-13  8:54               ` Chirantan Ekbote
2020-07-13 13:39                 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-06-19  8:27       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-06-19 11:39         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-06-19 11:49           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-06-19 12:05             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-06-19 17:41               ` Vivek Goyal
2020-06-19 19:12           ` Vivek Goyal
2020-06-26 11:26             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-06-19 16:09         ` Vivek Goyal
2020-06-19 16:16           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-06-19 17:11             ` Vivek Goyal
2020-06-19 17:16               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-06-19 14:16   ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-06-19 14:25     ` Vivek Goyal
2020-06-19 15:26       ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-06-19 15:57         ` Vivek Goyal
2020-06-19 14:29     ` Vivek Goyal

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