From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: virtio-fs@redhat.com, "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
"Miklos Szeredi" <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Subject: Re: [Virtio-fs] [PATCH 0/2] virtiofsd: drop Linux capabilities(7)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 12:26:02 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200626112602.GG3087@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200619191254.GH3154@redhat.com>
* Vivek Goyal (vgoyal@redhat.com) wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 12:39:14PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> [..]
> > The CAP_SYS_ADMIN requirement for 'trusted.' xattrs is simply a useful
> > mechanism for applications to control access. The host kernel doesn'
> > tuse this namespace itself. Linux has four namespaces for xattrs:
> >
> > - user - for userspace apps. accessible based on read/write permissions
> > - trusted - for userspace apps. accessible by CAP_SYS_ADMIN processes only
> > - system - for kernel only. used by ACLs
> > - security - for kernel only. used by SELinux
> >
> > The use case for "trusted" xattrs is thus where a privileged management
> > application or service wants to store metadata against the file, but
> > also needs to grant an unprivileged process access to write to this file
> > while not allowing that unprivileged process the ability to change the
> > metadata. This is mentioned in the man page:
> >
> > [man xattr(7)]
> > Trusted extended attributes
> > Trusted extended attributes are visible and accessible only to pro‐
> > cesses that have the CAP_SYS_ADMIN capability. Attributes in this
> > class are used to implement mechanisms in user space (i.e., outside
> > the kernel) which keep information in extended attributes to which
> > ordinary processes should not have access.
> >
> > User extended attributes
> > User extended attributes may be assigned to files and directories
> > for storing arbitrary additional information such as the mime type,
> > character set or encoding of a file. The access permissions for
> > user attributes are defined by the file permission bits: read per‐
> > mission is required to retrieve the attribute value, and writer per‐
> > mission is required to change it.
> > [/man]
> >
> > Libvirtd uses the "trusted." xattr namespace to record information against
> > disk images for QEMU, because we need to grant QEMU access to read/write
> > the disk iamges, but don't want QEMU to be able to alter our xattrs.
> >
> > It is unfortunate that this namespace is tied to the CAP_SYS_ADMIN cap.
> > It really ought to have had its own dedicated capability :-( Such is
> > life with anything that uses CAP_SYS_ADMIN...
> >
> > With this in mind we really should have both trusted. & user. xattrs
> > allowed to the guest by default.
> >
> > Conversely, we'll need to block usage of the security. and system.
> > namespaces.
>
> I am wondering can we block usage of "system" and "security"? What
> about guest setting acls over virtiofs files. These will have to
> go through and that means we need to allow system xattrs.
>
> Similarly setting file capabilities inside should trigger
> setxattr(security.capability) and that means we need to allow security
> xattr as well.
Yep, we see that when people install Fedora packages, when rpm
unpackgs /usr/bin/newgidmap which has:
$ getfattr -d '--match=.*' /usr/bin/newgidmap
getfattr: Removing leading '/' from absolute path names
# file: usr/bin/newgidmap
security.capability=0sAQAAAkAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA=
security.selinux="system_u:object_r:bin_t:s0"
Dave
> Thanks
> Vivek
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-06-26 11:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-04-16 16:49 [PATCH 0/2] virtiofsd: drop Linux capabilities(7) Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-04-16 16:49 ` [PATCH 1/2] virtiofsd: only retain file system capabilities Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-04-28 11:48 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-04-16 16:49 ` [PATCH 2/2] virtiofsd: drop all capabilities in the wait parent process Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-04-16 17:50 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-04-16 20:10 ` [PATCH 0/2] virtiofsd: drop Linux capabilities(7) Vivek Goyal
2020-04-17 9:42 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-05-01 18:28 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-06-18 19:08 ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2020-06-18 19:16 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-06-18 19:27 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-06-19 4:46 ` Chirantan Ekbote
2020-06-19 8:39 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-06-19 9:17 ` Chirantan Ekbote
2020-06-19 11:12 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-06-19 19:15 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-06-25 3:19 ` Chirantan Ekbote
2020-06-25 12:55 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-07-13 8:54 ` Chirantan Ekbote
2020-07-13 13:39 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-06-19 8:27 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-06-19 11:39 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-06-19 11:49 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-06-19 12:05 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-06-19 17:41 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-06-19 19:12 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-06-26 11:26 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2020-06-19 16:09 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-06-19 16:16 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-06-19 17:11 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-06-19 17:16 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-06-19 14:16 ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-06-19 14:25 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-06-19 15:26 ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-06-19 15:57 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-06-19 14:29 ` Vivek Goyal
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