Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] virtiofsd: probe unshare(CLONE_FS) and print an error

[Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>]

On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 04:52:33PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 09:12:50AM -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 12:00:20PM +0200, Roman Mohr wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 3:07 AM misono.tomohiro@fujitsu.com <
> > > misono.tomohiro@fujitsu.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > Subject: [PATCH v2 3/3] virtiofsd: probe unshare(CLONE_FS) and print an
> > > > error
> > > > >
> > > > > An assertion failure is raised during request processing if
> > > > > unshare(CLONE_FS) fails. Implement a probe at startup so the problem can
> > > > > be detected right away.
> > > > >
> > > > > Unfortunately Docker/Moby does not include unshare in the seccomp.json
> > > > > list unless CAP_SYS_ADMIN is given. Other seccomp.json lists always
> > > > > include unshare (e.g. podman is unaffected):
> > > > >
> > > > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/seccomp/containers-golang/master/seccomp.json
> > > > >
> > > > > Use "docker run --security-opt seccomp=path/to/seccomp.json ..." if the
> > > > > default seccomp.json is missing unshare.
> > > >
> > > > Hi, sorry for a bit late.
> > > >
> > > > unshare() was added to fix xattr problem:
> > > >
> > > > https://github.com/qemu/qemu/commit/bdfd66788349acc43cd3f1298718ad491663cfcc#
> > > > In theory we don't need to call unshare if xattr is disabled, but it is
> > > > hard to get to know
> > > > if xattr is enabled or disabled in fv_queue_worker(), right?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > In kubevirt we want to run virtiofsd in containers. We would already not
> > > have xattr support for e.g. overlayfs in the VM after this patch series (an
> > > acceptable con at least for us right now).
> > > If we can get rid of the unshare (and potentially of needing root) that
> > > would be great. We always assume that everything which we run in containers
> > > should work for cri-o and docker.
> > 
> > But cri-o and docker containers run as root, isn't it? (or atleast have
> > the capability to run as root). Havind said that, it will be nice to be able
> > to run virtiofsd without root. 
> > 
> > There are few hurdles though.
> > 
> > - For file creation, we switch uid/gid (seteuid/setegid) and that seems
> >   to require root. If we were to run unpriviliged, probably all files
> >   on host will have to be owned by unpriviliged user and guest visible
> >   uid/gid will have to be stored in xattrs. I think virtfs supports
> >   something similar.
> 
> I think I've mentioned before, 9p virtfs supports different modes,
> passthrough, squashed or remapped.
> 
> passthrough should be reasonably straightforward to support in virtiofs.
> The guest sees all the host UID/GIDs ownership as normal, and can read
> any files the host user can read, but are obviously restricted to write
> to only the files that host user can write too. No DAC-OVERRIDE facility
> in essence. You'll just get EPERM, which is fine. This simple passthrough
> scenario would be just what's desired for a typical desktop virt use
> cases, where you want to share part/all of your home dir with a guest for
> easy file access. Personally this is the mode I'd be most interested in
> seeing provided for unprivileged virtiofsd usage.

Interesting. So passthrough will have two sub modes. priviliged and
unpriviliged. As of now we support priviliged passthrough. 

I guess it does make sense to look into unpriviliged passthrough
and see what other operations will not be allowed.

Thanks
Vivek

> 
> squash is similar to passthrough, except the guest sees everything
> as owned by the same user. This can be surprising as the guest might
> see a file owned by them, but not be able to write to it, as on the
> host its actually owned by some other user. Fairly niche use case
> I think.
> 
> remapping would be needed for a more general purpose use cases
> allowing the guest to do arbitrary UID/GID changes, but on the host
> everything is still stored as one user and remapped somehow.
> 
> The main challenge for all the unprivileged scenarios is safety of
> the sandbox, to avoid risk of guests escaping to access files outside
> of the exported dir via symlink attacks or similar.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Daniel
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