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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Laurent Vivier <lvivier@redhat.com>
Cc: "Amit Shah" <amit@kernel.org>, "Jason Wang" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>,
	"Martin Wilck" <mwilck@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] virtio-rng: return available data with O_NONBLOCK
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 10:49:50 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200811104756-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a9179d2b-35fb-26ab-1afd-9952cc3ae008@redhat.com>

On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 03:53:54PM +0200, Laurent Vivier wrote:
> On 11/08/2020 15:14, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 03:00:14PM +0200, Laurent Vivier wrote:
> >> No problem. This code is tricky and it took me several months to really
> >> start to understand it ...
> > 
> > Oh great, we actually have someone who understands the code!
> > Maybe you can help me understand: virtio_read
> > takes the buf pointer and puts it in the vq.
> > It can then return to caller (e.g. on a signal).
> > Device can meanwhile write into the buffer.
> > 
> > It looks like if another call then happens, and that
> > other call uses a different buffer, virtio rng
> > will happily return the data written into the
> > original buf pointer, confusing the caller.
> > 
> > Is that right?
> > 
> 
> Yes.
> 
> hw_random core uses two bufers:
> 
> - rng_fillbuf that is used with a blocking access and protected by the
> reading_mutex. I think this cannot be interrupted by a kill because it's
> in  hwrng_fillfn() and it's kthread.
> 
> - rng_buffer that is used in rng_dev_read() and can be interrupted (it
> is also protected by reading_mutex)
> 
> But if rng_dev_read() is called with O_NONBLOCK or interrupted and then
> rng_fillbuf starts they can be mixed.
> 
> We have also the first use of rng_buffer in add_early_randomness() that
> use a different size than in rng_dev_read() with the same buffer (and
> this size is 16 whereas the hwrng read API says it must be at least 32...).
> 
> The problem here is core has been developped with synchronicity in mind,
> whereas virtio is asynchronous by definition.
> 
> I think we should add some internal buffers in virtio-rng backend. This
> would improve performance (we are at 1 MB/s, I sent a patch to improve
> that, but this doesn't fix the problems above), and allows hw_random
> core to use memory that doesn't need to be compatible with virt_to_page().
> 
> Thanks,
> Laurent

OK so just add a bunch of 32 bit buffers and pass them to hardware,
as they data gets consumed pass them to hardware again?


-- 
MST



  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-11 14:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-15 13:32 [PATCH v2] virtio-rng: return available data with O_NONBLOCK mwilck
2020-08-11 10:23 ` Reminder: " Martin Wilck
2020-08-11 10:37 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-08-11 12:02   ` Laurent Vivier
2020-08-11 12:22     ` Martin Wilck
2020-08-11 12:39       ` Laurent Vivier
2020-08-11 12:53         ` Martin Wilck
2020-08-11 13:00           ` Laurent Vivier
2020-08-11 13:14             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-08-11 13:53               ` Laurent Vivier
2020-08-11 14:49                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2020-08-11 15:00                   ` Laurent Vivier
2020-08-11 14:12           ` Martin Wilck
2020-08-11 11:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-08-11 12:07   ` Martin Wilck
2020-08-11 12:58     ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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