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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Nir Soffer <nsoffer@redhat.com>
Cc: QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	qemu-block <qemu-block@nongnu.org>, Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 06/22] qemu-nbd: Use raw block driver for --offset
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 10:47:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200818084712.GB6865@linux.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMRbyyu8=uFJkqCuC5BBamzHOwfXaw-rWVa+KT4gQc3bE=WKfQ@mail.gmail.com>

Am 17.08.2020 um 19:19 hat Nir Soffer geschrieben:
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 7:36 PM Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > Instead of implementing qemu-nbd --offset in the NBD code, just put a
> > raw block node with the requested offset on top of the user image and
> > rely on that doing the job.
> >
> > This does not only simplify the nbd_export_new() interface and bring it
> > closer to the set of options that the nbd-server-add QMP command offers,
> > but in fact it also eliminates a potential source for bugs in the NBD
> > code which previously had to add the offset manually in all relevant
> > places.
> >
> 
> Just to make sure I understand this correctly -
> 
> qemu-nbd can work with:
> 
>     $ qemu-nbd 'json:{"driver": "file", "filename": "test.raw"}'
> 
> And:
> 
>     $ qemu-nbd 'json:{"driver": "raw", "file": {"driver": "file",
> "filename": "test.raw"}}'
> 
> I assumed that we always create the raw node?

No, the first form creates only the 'file' node without a 'raw' node on
top. For all practical matters, this should be the same in qemu-img or
qemu-nbd. For actually running VMs, omitting the 'raw' node where it's
not needed can improve performance a little.

What is true is that if you use a filename without specifying the driver
(i.e.  you rely on format probing), you'll get a 'raw' node on top of
the 'file' node.

> oVirt always uses the second form to make it easier to support offset,
> size, and backing.
> https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-imageio/blob/2021164d064227d7c5e03c8da087adc66e3a577e/daemon/ovirt_imageio/_internal/qemu_nbd.py#L104
> 
> This also seems to be the way libvirt builds the nodes using -blockdev.

libvirt actually has a BZ to avoid the 'raw' node for performance when
it's not needed.

> Do we have a way to visualize the internal node graph used by
> qemu-nbd/qemu-img?

No, but as long as you explicitly specify the driver, you get exactly
what you specified.

For exploring what happens, you can pass the same json: filename to QEMU
(maybe with -hda) and then use the monitor to inspect the state.

Kevin



  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-18  8:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-13 16:29 [RFC PATCH 00/22] block/export: Add infrastructure and QAPI for block exports Kevin Wolf
2020-08-13 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH 01/22] nbd: Remove unused nbd_export_get_blockdev() Kevin Wolf
2020-08-17  8:14   ` Max Reitz
2020-08-19 18:13   ` Eric Blake
2020-08-13 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH 02/22] qapi: Create block-export module Kevin Wolf
2020-08-17  8:50   ` Max Reitz
2020-08-19 18:17   ` Eric Blake
2020-08-13 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH 03/22] qapi: Rename BlockExport to BlockExportOptions Kevin Wolf
2020-08-17  9:13   ` Max Reitz
2020-08-19 18:19   ` Eric Blake
2020-08-13 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH 04/22] block/export: Add BlockExport infrastructure and block-export-add Kevin Wolf
2020-08-17 10:03   ` Max Reitz
2020-08-17 12:45     ` Kevin Wolf
2020-08-17 13:19       ` Max Reitz
2020-08-17 13:29         ` Kevin Wolf
2020-08-17 13:53           ` Max Reitz
2020-08-19 18:31   ` Eric Blake
2020-08-13 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH 05/22] qemu-storage-daemon: Use qmp_block_export_add() Kevin Wolf
2020-08-17 10:13   ` Max Reitz
2020-08-19 19:14   ` Eric Blake
2020-08-13 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH 06/22] qemu-nbd: Use raw block driver for --offset Kevin Wolf
2020-08-17 10:56   ` Max Reitz
2020-08-17 11:41   ` Max Reitz
2020-08-17 17:19   ` Nir Soffer
2020-08-18  8:47     ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2020-08-18  9:05       ` Nir Soffer
2020-08-19 19:33   ` Eric Blake
2020-08-13 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH 07/22] block/export: Remove magic from block-export-add Kevin Wolf
2020-08-17 11:41   ` Max Reitz
2020-08-17 12:49     ` Kevin Wolf
2020-08-17 13:22       ` Max Reitz
2020-08-19 19:50   ` Eric Blake
2020-08-20 11:05     ` Kevin Wolf
2020-08-20 14:41       ` Eric Blake
2020-08-20 15:28         ` Peter Krempa
2020-08-13 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH 08/22] nbd: Add max-connections to nbd-server-start Kevin Wolf
2020-08-17 12:37   ` Max Reitz
2020-08-17 13:01     ` Kevin Wolf
2020-08-19 20:00   ` Eric Blake
2020-08-20 11:12     ` Kevin Wolf
2020-08-13 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH 09/22] nbd: Add writethrough to block-export-add Kevin Wolf
2020-08-17 12:56   ` Max Reitz
2020-08-17 13:13     ` Kevin Wolf
2020-08-17 13:51       ` Max Reitz
2020-08-17 14:32         ` Kevin Wolf
2020-08-17 15:35           ` Max Reitz
2020-08-19 20:05     ` Eric Blake
2020-08-19 20:13   ` Eric Blake
2020-08-13 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH 10/22] nbd: Remove NBDExport.close callback Kevin Wolf
2020-08-17 14:02   ` Max Reitz
2020-08-19 20:17   ` Eric Blake
2020-08-13 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH 11/22] qemu-nbd: Use blk_exp_add() to create the export Kevin Wolf
2020-08-17 14:27   ` Max Reitz
2020-08-17 14:38     ` Max Reitz
2020-08-17 15:01     ` Kevin Wolf
2020-08-19 20:35   ` Eric Blake
2020-08-13 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH 12/22] nbd/server: Simplify export shutdown Kevin Wolf
2020-08-17 14:32   ` Max Reitz
2020-08-19 20:45   ` Eric Blake
2020-08-13 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH 13/22] block/export: Move refcount from NBDExport to BlockExport Kevin Wolf
2020-08-17 14:49   ` Max Reitz
2020-08-19 20:58   ` Eric Blake
2020-08-20 14:15     ` Kevin Wolf
2020-08-13 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH 14/22] block/export: Move AioContext " Kevin Wolf
2020-08-17 14:56   ` Max Reitz
2020-08-17 15:22     ` Kevin Wolf
2020-08-17 15:47       ` Max Reitz
2020-08-13 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH 15/22] block/export: Move device to BlockExportOptions Kevin Wolf
2020-08-17 15:13   ` Max Reitz
2020-08-17 15:27     ` Kevin Wolf
2020-08-17 15:49       ` Max Reitz
2020-08-19 21:13   ` Eric Blake
2020-08-13 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH 16/22] block/export: Allocate BlockExport in blk_exp_add() Kevin Wolf
2020-08-18 14:25   ` Max Reitz
2020-08-13 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH 17/22] block/export: Add blk_exp_close_all(_type) Kevin Wolf
2020-08-18 15:00   ` Max Reitz
2020-08-13 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH 18/22] block/export: Add 'id' option to block-export-add Kevin Wolf
2020-08-18 15:08   ` Max Reitz
2020-08-13 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH 19/22] block/export: Move strong user reference to block_exports Kevin Wolf
2020-08-19  8:35   ` Max Reitz
2020-08-19 11:56   ` Max Reitz
2020-08-19 14:23     ` Kevin Wolf
2020-08-19 14:48       ` Max Reitz
2020-08-13 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH 20/22] block/export: Add block-export-del Kevin Wolf
2020-08-19  9:54   ` Max Reitz
2020-08-13 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH 21/22] block/export: Move blk to BlockExport Kevin Wolf
2020-08-19 10:53   ` Max Reitz
2020-08-13 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH 22/22] block/export: Add query-block-exports Kevin Wolf
2020-08-19 11:04   ` Max Reitz
2020-08-19 12:04     ` Kevin Wolf

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