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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: alex.chen@huawei.com, zhang.zhanghailiang@huawei.com,
	quintela@redhat.com, linyilu@huawei.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Chuan Zheng <zhengchuan@huawei.com>,
	ann.zhuangyanying@huawei.com, fangying1@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 05/10] migration/dirtyrate: Record hash results for each sampled page
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 18:55:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200820175512.GQ2664@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200820175149.GA244434@redhat.com>

* Daniel P. Berrangé (berrange@redhat.com) wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 06:30:09PM +0100, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > * Chuan Zheng (zhengchuan@huawei.com) wrote:
> > > Record hash results for each sampled page.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Chuan Zheng <zhengchuan@huawei.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: YanYing Zhuang <ann.zhuangyanying@huawei.com>
> > > ---
> > >  migration/dirtyrate.c | 144 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >  migration/dirtyrate.h |   7 +++
> > >  2 files changed, 151 insertions(+)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/migration/dirtyrate.c b/migration/dirtyrate.c
> > > index c4304ef..62b6f69 100644
> > > --- a/migration/dirtyrate.c
> > > +++ b/migration/dirtyrate.c
> > > @@ -25,6 +25,7 @@
> > >  #include "dirtyrate.h"
> > >  
> > >  CalculatingDirtyRateState CalculatingState = CAL_DIRTY_RATE_INIT;
> > > +static unsigned long int qcrypto_hash_len = QCRYPTO_HASH_LEN;
> > 
> > Why do we need this static rather than just using the QCRYPTO_HASH_LEN ?
> > It's never going to change is it?
> > (and anyway it's just a MD5 len?)
> 
> I wouldn't want to bet on that given that this is use of MD5. We might
> claim this isn't security critical, but surprises happen, and we will
> certainly be dinged on security audits for introducing new use of MD5
> no matter what.
> 
> If a cryptographic hash is required, then sha256 should be the choice
> for any new code that doesn't have back compat requirements.
> 
> If a cryptographic hash is not required then how about crc32 

It doesn't need to be cryptographic; is crc32 the fastest reasonable hash for use
in large areas?

Dave

> IOW, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to say we need a cryptographic
> hash, but then pick the most insecure one.
> 
> sha256 is slower than md5, but it is conceivable that in future we might
> gain support for something like Blake2b which is similar security level
> to SHA3, while being faster than MD5.
> 
> Overall I'm pretty unethusiastic about use of MD5 being introduced and
> worse, being hardcoded as the only option.
> 
> Regards,
> Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-20 17:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-17  3:20 [PATCH v3 00/10] *** A Method for evaluating dirty page rate *** Chuan Zheng
2020-08-17  3:19 ` no-reply
2020-08-17  3:20 ` [PATCH v3 01/10] migration/dirtyrate: Add get_dirtyrate_thread() function Chuan Zheng
2020-08-20 16:11   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-08-21  9:59     ` Zheng Chuan
2020-08-17  3:20 ` [PATCH v3 02/10] migration/dirtyrate: Add RamlockDirtyInfo to store sampled page info Chuan Zheng
2020-08-20 16:20   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-08-21  9:59     ` Zheng Chuan
2020-08-21 12:08       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-08-17  3:20 ` [PATCH v3 03/10] migration/dirtyrate: Add dirtyrate statistics series functions Chuan Zheng
2020-08-20 16:28   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-08-21  9:59     ` Zheng Chuan
2020-08-17  3:20 ` [PATCH v3 04/10] migration/dirtyrate: move RAMBLOCK_FOREACH_MIGRATABLE into ram.h Chuan Zheng
2020-08-20 16:31   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-08-17  3:20 ` [PATCH v3 05/10] migration/dirtyrate: Record hash results for each sampled page Chuan Zheng
2020-08-20 17:30   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-08-20 17:51     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-08-20 17:55       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2020-08-21 12:22         ` Zheng Chuan
2020-08-21 12:30           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-08-21 12:39             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-08-21 13:07               ` Zheng Chuan
2020-08-22  6:25               ` Zheng Chuan
2020-08-24  8:57                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-08-17  3:20 ` [PATCH v3 06/10] migration/dirtyrate: Compare page hash results for recorded " Chuan Zheng
2020-08-20 17:36   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-08-21 12:01     ` Zheng Chuan
2020-08-21 12:12       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-08-17  3:20 ` [PATCH v3 07/10] migration/dirtyrate: skip sampling ramblock with size below MIN_RAMBLOCK_SIZE Chuan Zheng
2020-08-20 17:39   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-08-17  3:20 ` [PATCH v3 08/10] migration/dirtyrate: Implement get_sample_page_period() and block_sample_page_period() Chuan Zheng
2020-08-20 17:52   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-08-17  3:20 ` [PATCH v3 09/10] migration/dirtyrate: Implement calculate_dirtyrate() function Chuan Zheng
2020-08-20 17:57   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-08-21  9:59     ` Zheng Chuan
2020-08-17  3:20 ` [PATCH v3 10/10] migration/dirtyrate: Implement qmp_cal_dirty_rate()/qmp_get_dirty_rate() function Chuan Zheng
2020-08-20 17:17   ` Eric Blake
2020-08-20 18:00     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-08-21 10:00       ` Zheng Chuan

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