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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Christian Schoenebeck <qemu_oss@crudebyte.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>, Liviu Ionescu <ilg@livius.net>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, G 3 <programmingkidx@gmail.com>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC] QEMU as Xcode project on macOS
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 08:37:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200910073710.GA1083348@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1695914.5EixHECA2G@silver>

On Wed, Sep 09, 2020 at 08:56:48PM +0200, Christian Schoenebeck wrote:
> On Mittwoch, 9. September 2020 20:13:55 CEST Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > > On Mittwoch, 9. September 2020 15:40:05 CEST Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > > > Ideally any xcode setup would just invoke whatever our standard
> > > > build tools are IMHO, so it has zero possibility of introducing
> > > > new build problems.
> > > 
> > > Then you would not win anything on Mac. The problematic on macOS is that
> > > Apple froze many standard FOSS tools that switched to GPL3. So by default
> > > you just have e.g. GNU make 3.81 (2006), Bash 3.2.57 (2007), ...  unless
> > > you start to manually install them (e.g. from Homebrew & Co). And being
> > > forced to use Meson on Mac with all its Python dependencies does not make
> > > it easier.
> > 
> > It is going to need to use homebrew (or an equivalent) to bring in various
> > 3rd party libraries QEMU depends on at build time, not least glib.
> 
> External libraries are not the problem. AFAICS that's just libffi, glib and 
> pixman. These could be added as submodules.
> 
> The more relevant ones would be the build tools that those QEMU scripts are 
> running to auto generate source files.

I don't think we want to be adding more 3rd party deps as submodules, quite
the opposite, we want to remove more submodules we currently have.

Bundling every important dep we use as a submodule and providing build rules,
means we're effectively re-inventing Homebrew / MacPorts and this is not a
sane use of our time.

Regards,
Daniel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-09-10  7:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-09 12:56 [RFC] QEMU as Xcode project on macOS Christian Schoenebeck
2020-09-09 13:30 ` Peter Maydell
2020-09-09 13:43   ` Liviu Ionescu
2020-09-09 17:32   ` Christian Schoenebeck
2020-09-09 17:45     ` Liviu Ionescu
2020-09-09 18:13     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-09-09 18:56       ` Christian Schoenebeck
2020-09-09 19:03         ` Liviu Ionescu
2020-09-09 19:26           ` Christian Schoenebeck
2020-09-09 19:16         ` Peter Maydell
2020-09-09 20:13           ` Liviu Ionescu
2020-09-10  9:20             ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-09-10 10:21               ` Liviu Ionescu
2020-09-10  7:37         ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2020-09-10  9:32           ` Christian Schoenebeck
2020-09-10  9:39             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-09-10 10:14               ` Christian Schoenebeck
2020-09-10 10:24                 ` Liviu Ionescu
2020-09-10 10:35                 ` Peter Maydell
2020-09-10 10:45                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-09-10 10:56                     ` Liviu Ionescu
2020-09-10 14:40                   ` Christian Schoenebeck
2020-09-11 17:19                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-09-11 17:33                       ` Christian Schoenebeck
2020-09-10 10:41             ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-09-10 10:54               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-09-09 13:40 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-09-09 13:41 ` Thomas Huth
2020-09-09 13:44   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-09-09 15:16   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-09-09 14:40 ` Programmingkid

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