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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, Peter Krempa <pkrempa@redhat.com>,
	"Denis V. Lunev" <den@virtuozzo.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	Pavel Dovgalyuk <pavel.dovgaluk@ispras.ru>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>, John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 9/9] migration: introduce snapshot-{save, load, delete} QMP commands
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 09:27:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200916082751.GC1535709@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tuvyt9sf.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org>

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 10:17:52AM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > savevm, loadvm and delvm are some of the few HMP commands that have never
> > been converted to use QMP. The reasons for the lack of conversion are
> > that they blocked execution of the event thread, and the semantics
> > around choice of disks were ill-defined.
> >
> > Despite this downside, however, libvirt and applications using libvirt
> > have used these commands for as long as QMP has existed, via the
> > "human-monitor-command" passthrough command. IOW, while it is clearly
> > desirable to be able to fix the problems, they are not a blocker to
> > all real world usage.
> >
> > Meanwhile there is a need for other features which involve adding new
> > parameters to the commands. This is possible with HMP passthrough, but
> > it provides no reliable way for apps to introspect features, so using
> > QAPI modelling is highly desirable.
> >
> > This patch thus introduces new snapshot-{load,save,delete} commands to
> > QMP that are intended to replace the old HMP counterparts. The new
> > commands are given different names, because they will be using the new
> > QEMU job framework and thus will have diverging behaviour from the HMP
> > originals. It would thus be misleading to keep the same name.
> >
> > While this design uses the generic job framework, the current impl is
> > still blocking. The intention that the blocking problem is fixed later.
> > None the less applications using these new commands should assume that
> > they are asynchronous and thus wait for the job status change event to
> > indicate completion.
> >
> > In addition to using the job framework, the new commands require the
> > caller to be explicit about all the block device nodes used in the
> > snapshot operations, with no built-in default heuristics in use.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com>
> [...]
> > diff --git a/qapi/job.json b/qapi/job.json
> > index 280c2f76f1..b2cbb4fead 100644
> > --- a/qapi/job.json
> > +++ b/qapi/job.json
> > @@ -22,10 +22,17 @@
> >  #
> >  # @amend: image options amend job type, see "x-blockdev-amend" (since 5.1)
> >  #
> > +# @snapshot-load: snapshot load job type, see "snapshot-load" (since 5.2)
> > +#
> > +# @snapshot-save: snapshot save job type, see "snapshot-save" (since 5.2)
> > +#
> > +# @snapshot-delete: snapshot delete job type, see "snapshot-delete" (since 5.2)
> > +#
> >  # Since: 1.7
> >  ##
> >  { 'enum': 'JobType',
> > -  'data': ['commit', 'stream', 'mirror', 'backup', 'create', 'amend'] }
> > +  'data': ['commit', 'stream', 'mirror', 'backup', 'create', 'amend',
> > +           'snapshot-load', 'snapshot-save', 'snapshot-delete'] }
> >  
> >  ##
> >  # @JobStatus:
> > diff --git a/qapi/migration.json b/qapi/migration.json
> > index 675f70bb67..b584c0be31 100644
> > --- a/qapi/migration.json
> > +++ b/qapi/migration.json
> > @@ -1720,3 +1720,123 @@
> >  ##
> >  { 'event': 'UNPLUG_PRIMARY',
> >    'data': { 'device-id': 'str' } }
> > +
> > +##
> > +# @snapshot-save:
> > +#
> > +# Save a VM snapshot
> > +#
> > +# @job-id: identifier for the newly created job
> > +# @tag: name of the snapshot to create
> > +# @devices: list of block device node names to save a snapshot to
> 
> Looks like you dropped the idea to also accept drive IDs.  Is that for
> good, or would you like to add it later?

I'm still kind of on the fence, but if general opinion is that we should
accept drive IDs, I'll add it.

I wonder what the other blockdev-* APIs accept - some consistency between
APIs is desirable.

Regards,
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-16  8:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-15 11:35 [PATCH v4 0/9] migration: bring improved savevm/loadvm/delvm to QMP Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-09-15 11:35 ` [PATCH v4 1/9] block: push error reporting into bdrv_all_*_snapshot functions Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-09-15 11:35 ` [PATCH v4 2/9] migration: stop returning errno from load_snapshot() Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-09-15 11:35 ` [PATCH v4 3/9] block: add ability to specify list of blockdevs during snapshot Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-09-15 11:35 ` [PATCH v4 4/9] block: allow specifying name of block device for vmstate storage Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-09-15 11:35 ` [PATCH v4 5/9] migration: control whether snapshots are ovewritten Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-09-16  7:47   ` Markus Armbruster
2020-09-16  8:25     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-09-15 11:35 ` [PATCH v4 6/9] migration: wire up support for snapshot device selection Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-09-21 17:41   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-15 11:35 ` [PATCH v4 7/9] migration: introduce a delete_snapshot wrapper Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-09-15 11:35 ` [PATCH v4 8/9] iotests: add support for capturing and matching QMP events Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-09-15 11:35 ` [PATCH v4 9/9] migration: introduce snapshot-{save, load, delete} QMP commands Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-09-16  8:17   ` Markus Armbruster
2020-09-16  8:27     ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2020-09-16 11:44       ` Markus Armbruster
2020-09-21 18:16     ` Eric Blake
2020-10-02 15:56       ` Daniel P. Berrangé

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