From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.0 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_INVALID, DKIM_SIGNED,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A1CEC433E2 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 14:07:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D846223B0 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 14:07:24 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key) header.d=redhat.com header.i=@redhat.com header.b="IogKJaAd" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 8D846223B0 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Received: from localhost ([::1]:37440 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kIY5j-0003AB-M7 for qemu-devel@archiver.kernel.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 10:07:23 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35880) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kIY4o-0001w5-3k for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 10:06:26 -0400 Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com ([63.128.21.124]:50155) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kIY4m-0001yt-9b for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 10:06:25 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1600265182; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references; bh=2POS4tR5DDdWPJj7M6IYrwS5GbzewCMxC4xuj+CcEmg=; b=IogKJaAd+EvCVJ0Cwk5nZIqCe42G+/vkrv+XKl12esm/B41V1h8m9tjt4YUzkn+ViV8s18 x5KfIXDUsHi6QmFyOS1iEgit7Oc946KNkaxHoUcBl4wNSZDqLTuUI2NZbjBPGCizqZCO2G qVNDtYofVmGj+LFUjp4iJ33XHQgFMYo= Received: from mimecast-mx01.redhat.com (mimecast-mx01.redhat.com [209.132.183.4]) (Using TLS) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP id us-mta-474-fbALcrTJMjmqI_pvnTMLpw-1; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 10:06:03 -0400 X-MC-Unique: fbALcrTJMjmqI_pvnTMLpw-1 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx07.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mimecast-mx01.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80D771891E9B; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 14:06:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from redhat.com (ovpn-113-248.ams2.redhat.com [10.36.113.248]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9BFC21002397; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 14:05:53 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 15:05:50 +0100 From: Daniel =?utf-8?B?UC4gQmVycmFuZ8Op?= To: Thomas Huth Subject: Re: Python 3.5 EOL; when can require 3.6? Message-ID: <20200916140550.GQ1535709@redhat.com> References: <875z8eupyp.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.14.6 (2020-07-11) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 on 10.5.11.22 Authentication-Results: relay.mimecast.com; auth=pass smtp.auth=CUSA124A263 smtp.mailfrom=berrange@redhat.com X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Received-SPF: pass client-ip=63.128.21.124; envelope-from=berrange@redhat.com; helo=us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/16 02:35:56 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -50 X-Spam_score: -5.1 X-Spam_bar: ----- X-Spam_report: (-5.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-2.999, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Daniel =?utf-8?B?UC4gQmVycmFuZ8Op?= Cc: Peter Maydell , Eduardo Habkost , Markus Armbruster , QEMU Developers , Michael Roth , Stefan Hajnoczi , Cleber Rosa , John Snow Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: "Qemu-devel" On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 04:00:14PM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote: > On 16/09/2020 14.30, Peter Maydell wrote: > > On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 08:43, Markus Armbruster wrote: > >> We require Python 3.5. It will reach its "end of life" at the end of > >> September 2020[*]. Any reason not to require 3.6 for 5.2? qemu-iotests > >> already does for its Python parts. > [...] > > The default should be > > "leave the version dependency where it is", not "bump the version > > dependency as soon as we can". > > OTOH, if none of our supported build systems uses python 3.5 by default > anymore, it also will not get tested anymore, so bugs might creep in, > which will of course end up in a bad experience for the users, too, that > still try to build with such an old version. So limiting the version to > the level that we also test is IMHO very reasonable. > > Let's have a look at the (older) systems that we support and the python > versions according to repology.org: > > - RHEL7 / CentOS 7 : 3.6.8 > - Ubuntu 18.04 (Bionic) : >= 3.6.5 > - openSUSE Leap 15.0 : >= 3.6.5 > - OpenBSD Ports : >= 3.7.9 > - FreeBSD Ports : >= 3.5.10 - but there is also 3.6 or newer "pkg install python3" will give you python 3.7 right now. > - Homebrew : >= 3.7.9 > > ... so I think it should be fine to retire 3.5 nowadays. Regards, Daniel -- |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com :| |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :|