From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
Cleber Rosa <crosa@redhat.com>, John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Python 3.5 EOL; when can require 3.6?
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 15:55:12 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200917145512.GF1597829@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9d4363e8-7bb8-8255-9914-6d9bc36cec79@redhat.com>
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 04:10:55PM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote:
> On 16/09/2020 16.00, Thomas Huth wrote:
> > On 16/09/2020 14.30, Peter Maydell wrote:
> >> On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 08:43, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>> We require Python 3.5. It will reach its "end of life" at the end of
> >>> September 2020[*]. Any reason not to require 3.6 for 5.2? qemu-iotests
> >>> already does for its Python parts.
> > [...]
> >> The default should be
> >> "leave the version dependency where it is", not "bump the version
> >> dependency as soon as we can".
> >
> > OTOH, if none of our supported build systems uses python 3.5 by default
> > anymore, it also will not get tested anymore, so bugs might creep in,
> > which will of course end up in a bad experience for the users, too, that
> > still try to build with such an old version. So limiting the version to
> > the level that we also test is IMHO very reasonable.
> >
> > Let's have a look at the (older) systems that we support and the python
> > versions according to repology.org:
> >
> > - RHEL7 / CentOS 7 : 3.6.8
> > - Ubuntu 18.04 (Bionic) : >= 3.6.5
> > - openSUSE Leap 15.0 : >= 3.6.5
> > - OpenBSD Ports : >= 3.7.9
> > - FreeBSD Ports : >= 3.5.10 - but there is also 3.6 or newer
> > - Homebrew : >= 3.7.9
> >
> > ... so I think it should be fine to retire 3.5 nowadays.
>
> Sorry, I forgot to check Debian. If I got that right, Debian 9 still
> uses Python 3.5 by default. So I guess that means we can not deprecate
> Python 3.5 yet?
FWIW, Debian 9 EOL was July this year, if you only count the regular
lifetime, not the LTS.
Regards,
Daniel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-09-17 15:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-09-16 7:43 Python 3.5 EOL; when can require 3.6? Markus Armbruster
2020-09-16 7:53 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-09-16 8:02 ` Thomas Huth
2020-09-16 8:16 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-09-16 13:53 ` Alex Bennée
2020-09-16 13:57 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-09-17 14:53 ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-09-16 8:22 ` Andrea Bolognani
2020-09-16 15:09 ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-09-16 7:54 ` Thomas Huth
2020-09-16 8:33 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-09-16 9:50 ` Thomas Huth
2020-09-16 9:54 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-09-16 9:55 ` Thomas Huth
2020-09-16 8:31 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-09-16 12:30 ` Peter Maydell
2020-09-16 13:30 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-09-16 14:00 ` Thomas Huth
2020-09-16 14:05 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-09-16 14:57 ` John Snow
2020-09-17 14:10 ` Thomas Huth
2020-09-17 14:55 ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2020-09-17 15:24 ` Thomas Huth
2020-09-17 15:39 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-09-17 15:41 ` Thomas Huth
2020-09-17 15:30 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-09-17 15:39 ` Thomas Huth
2020-09-17 15:42 ` Warner Losh
2020-09-17 16:07 ` Andrea Bolognani
2020-09-17 16:35 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-09-17 17:02 ` Andrea Bolognani
2020-09-17 16:19 ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-09-17 16:33 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-09-17 16:50 ` Eduardo Habkost
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