From: David Gibson <dgibson@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
Julia Suvorova <jusual@redhat.com>,
qemu devel list <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] pci: Refuse to hotplug PCI Devices when the Guest OS is not ready
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 14:34:34 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201028143434.4ed25044@yekko.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201027085650-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 09:02:06 -0400
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 01:54:26PM +0100, Igor Mammedov wrote:
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> > I have more questions wrt the suggestion/workflow:
> > * at what place would you suggest buffering it?
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> PCIESlot maybe?
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> > * what would be the request in this case, i.e. create PCI device anyways
> > and try to signal hotplug event later?
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> that was my idea, yes.
Actually, I don't think that will quite work. A whole chunk of the
problem here is that because the device is realized, the guest sees it
as part of its general scan *before* the hotplug event (ABP and PDC
interrupts) appears. That makes the guest misinterpret the ABP as an
*unplug* request.
So delaying the interrupt without delaying the realize (or at least
filtering config space access to it based on.. something) will just
trigger the same problem AFAICT.
> > * what would baremethal do in such case?
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> exactly the same, human would wait until blinking stops.
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> > * what to do in case guest is never ready, what user should do in such case?
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> As in guest is stuck? Do we care? It can't use the device.
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> > * can be such device be removed?
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> why not? device_del could complete immediately ...
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> I'd say let's get expected behaviour for existing commands first.
> We can add events and stuff on top.
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David Gibson <dgibson@redhat.com>
Principal Software Engineer, Virtualization, Red Hat
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-10-28 3:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-10-22 11:40 [PATCH] pci: Refuse to hotplug PCI Devices when the Guest OS is not ready Marcel Apfelbaum
2020-10-22 12:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-10-22 12:56 ` David Gibson
2020-10-22 13:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-10-23 3:30 ` David Gibson
2020-10-22 13:55 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2020-10-22 14:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-10-22 14:10 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2020-10-22 14:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-10-22 14:50 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2020-10-22 15:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-10-23 3:49 ` David Gibson
2020-10-23 6:47 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2020-10-23 15:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-10-23 17:27 ` Igor Mammedov
2020-10-26 6:38 ` David Gibson
2020-10-26 9:17 ` Peter Krempa
2020-10-26 6:35 ` David Gibson
2020-10-23 6:26 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2020-10-26 6:45 ` David Gibson
2020-10-27 11:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-10-27 12:54 ` Igor Mammedov
2020-10-27 13:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-10-28 3:34 ` David Gibson [this message]
2020-10-28 3:31 ` David Gibson
2020-10-28 15:39 ` Igor Mammedov
2020-10-28 17:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-10-27 11:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-10-23 3:31 ` David Gibson
2020-11-11 12:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-11-15 16:48 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2020-11-11 16:09 ` Roman Kagan
2020-11-15 16:43 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
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