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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	Felipe Franciosi <felipe@nutanix.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] virtio: skip guest index check on device load
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2020 13:31:35 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201102133135.GA4845@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201028110038.GE221115@stefanha-x1.localdomain>

* Stefan Hajnoczi (stefanha@redhat.com) wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 09:04:46AM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > It's not a waste of time, it's just a lot of work
> > within guests.
> 
> Luckily it does no harm to set the NEEDS_RESET bit even if the guest
> doesn't handle it.
> 
> If the guest driver is unaware it may continue to submit requests to the
> device for a while. The device emulation code stops accepting new
> requests though. This means the device will become unresponsive until
> reset, which is not ideal but okay in the case where the device was put
> into an invalid state.
> 
> I agree that supporting NEEDS_RESET transparently inside guests is
> difficult. The driver needs to reset and resume the device without
> reporting errors to applications.

Is that required?  I mean, what are the semantics of NEEDS_RESET - is
it assuming that you must be able to do a silent recovery?

Dave


> In some cases drivers may not have
> enough state in order to do that. It's also tricky to test all code
> paths. I guess this is why no one has done it: drivers shouldn't enter
> the NEEDS_RESET state anyway and handling it is complex.
> 
> Stefan


-- 
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK



      parent reply	other threads:[~2020-11-02 13:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-26 15:13 [PATCH] virtio: skip guest index check on device load Felipe Franciosi
2020-10-27 11:30 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-10-27 12:25   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-10-27 12:53     ` Felipe Franciosi
2020-10-27 12:56       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-10-27 13:02         ` Felipe Franciosi
2020-10-27 13:04           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-10-28 11:00             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-10-28 11:30               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-10-28 12:44                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-11-02 13:31               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]

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