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auth=pass smtp.auth=CUSA124A263 smtp.mailfrom=berrange@redhat.com X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=63.128.21.124; envelope-from=berrange@redhat.com; helo=us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/11/04 22:46:30 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Daniel =?utf-8?B?UC4gQmVycmFuZ8Op?= Cc: Peter Maydell , Thomas Huth , Alex =?utf-8?Q?Benn=C3=A9e?= , Cornelia Huck , "qemu-devel@nongnu.org Developers" , Alistair Francis , Philippe =?utf-8?Q?Mathieu-Daud=C3=A9?= Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: "Qemu-devel" On Thu, Nov 05, 2020 at 10:44:42AM -0500, John Snow wrote: > On 11/5/20 1:14 AM, Thomas Huth wrote: > > On 05/11/2020 01.06, John Snow wrote: > > > On 10/30/20 6:57 AM, Peter Maydell wrote: > > > > On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 at 10:10, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > > > > This > > > > > makes it more appealing to leave existing bugs in the LP tracker until > > > > > they are resolved, auto-closed, or there is a compelling reason to move > > > > > to gitlab. > > > > > > > > The compelling reason is that there is no way that I want to > > > > have to consult two entirely separate bug tracking systems > > > > to see what our reported bugs are. We must have an entry > > > > in the new BTS for every 'live' bug, whether it was originally > > > > reported to LP or to gitlab. > > [...] > > > OK. I will try to investigate using the Launchpad API to pull our > > > existing information, and then using the Gitlab API to re-create them. > > > > Before we migrate hundreds of bugs around, I think we should first check > > which ones are stale, and which are still valid. So for all bugs that are in > > "New" state and older than, let's say 2 years, I think we should add a > > message a la: > > > > The QEMU project is currently considering to move its bug tracking to > > another system. For this we need to know which bugs are still valid and > > which could be closed already. Thus we are setting all older bugs to > > "Incomplete" now. If you still think this bug report here is valid, then > > please switch the state back to "New" within the next 60 days, otherwise > > this report will be marked as "Expired". Thank you and sorry for the > > inconvenience. > > > > One reason to NOT do this is that if the bug does wind up being legitimate > -- perhaps it is still a top google hit for searching a particular error > string -- once we have migrated, there will be no recourse for the hapless > googler. AFAIK, Google will index closed bugs, so they'll still appear in the search results. If we really want to, we could put a comment in the bugs we're about to close, telling people that we're using gitlab now, and to re-file their bug there if they care about it. I'm not sure that's needed though, since it is no different a situation to what we have already with the 1000's of bugs we've closed over the years. > We can leave a generic forwarder to the new tracker once we migrate, but > there's no way to "re-open" the issue. If someone re-files on the new > tracker, they won't be able to update the bug to leave a new breadcrumb. > > However, if we migrate the bug first, we can leave breadcrumbs on the old > tracker pointing to the new one, and then if the bug winds up being > legitimate, googlers can follow the breadcrumb to the gitlab issue and > either update that bug, reopen it, etc. IMHO they can just file a fresh bug in GitLab from scratch easily enough by just copy+pasting the existin bug description. I don't see a benefit in creating 100's of bugs in GitLab that we will immediately close as being stale. Regards, Daniel -- |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com :| |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :|